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    Re: Switching from glass to tub

    wouldnt a 66 stress him out? way too big right?

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    Re: Switching from glass to tub

    Dont believe everything people tell you... All 11 of my snakes are in tubs "too big for snakes" according to a lot of people on this site and I have zero problems. As long as you have 2 hides a water dish and the right temps/humidity youll be fine. Dont you think atleast one of my 11 snakes would be "stressed out" if that statment were true? Temps and humidity and snug hides are most important... The only reason I use such big tubs are bc i provide something for them to climb on which means my tubs need to be taller... check out my pics... the size comparison is no different that the pics recently posted. Theres no proof that babies do "better" in smaller tubs.
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    Re: Switching from glass to tub

    Here is how I do it if that helps

    Up to 500 grams – 15 Quarts

    Up to 1500 grams – 32 Quarts

    Above 1500 grams – 41 Quarts

    And remember the most important is floor space not height
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    Re: Switching from glass to tub

    Quote Originally Posted by JoshJP7 View Post
    Theres no proof that babies do "better" in smaller tubs.
    That has not been my personal experience, nor that of countless others. They DO do better in smaller enclosures. It's wonderful it works for you. Kudos!

    Not sure why you take it so personally when smaller enclosures are recommended.

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    Re: Switching from glass to tub

    I dont take it personally I just dont like people getting filled with incorrect information such as "too big itll stress it out"... Im just curious what your snakes "do better" than mine??... Why do you take it personal when I reccomend large enclosures? Its been my experience that they do just fine in larger enclosures so I will always reccommend it to newbies... not everyone wants to keep their snakes in a tiny box... some like to allow them room to move w/o going through their own piss n poop.
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    Re: Switching from glass to tub

    Weren't you also recommending glass tanks as better to newbies just a year ago?

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    Re: Switching from glass to tub

    Quote Originally Posted by JoshJP7 View Post
    I dont take it personally... Im just curious what your snakes "do better" than mine??... Why do you take it personal when I reccomend large enclosures? Its been my experience that they do just fine in larger enclosures so I will always reccommend it to newbies... not everyone wants to keep their snakes in a tiny box... some like to allow them room to move w/o going through their own piss n poop.
    And the point you keep missing Josh is the fact that most people who are barely starting in this hobby (which seems to be the case according to the previous post) will not likely recognize signs of stress which is why based on experience people will always recommend smaller tighter enclosure.

    Once experienced should the person experiment? Absolutely if that is what they want, this way they will find out what work best for them however until they gain this experience they should play it on the safe side to avoid further problems.
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    Re: Switching from glass to tub

    OOOo Robin you really got me with that one? I love how your little pun has NOTHING to do with this post and might I add it was over a year ago? I think its time you move on.

    When will you guys realize that you dont HAVE to keep your snakes in a small enclosure for them to be happy? I was a newbie when I started using 66qt tubs... and never had a problem since I made the switch to tubs... what makes you think this kids gonna have a problem??
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    Re: Switching from glass to tub

    I think the problem is that most newbies are already having difficulties providing the right environment for their snakes. To recommend a large enclosure is to give that newbie even more responsibility and make it harder to try and maintain the right requirements. So when giving advice I try to give the best advice that is a both easily achievable and best for the snake. I will agree with you that temps, humidity, and security are first on the list and size of the enclosure comes into play after that.
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    I agree with you rich... humidity pretty much controls itself in a tub and heat can be maintained easily by a heat pad and thermostat. Its not like I told this kid to use a 55 gal glass tank.
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