Sterlite tub for my BP??

[JoshJP7]

What I'm saying is it will work for others... pretty darn close to 100% of the time...I'm 11/11 and have had no problems... What it comes down to is do you want your snake to have room to climb? You choose not to provide them with that so theres no need for the extra space and a 60qt doesnt make sense. I think the majority of snakes should have something to climb on bc these animals live in the wild and there they have the option to climb. To provide them with that, I and other owners like me need to use a taller tub. A smaller tub also allows an owner to have multiple snakes in small space. When my snakes are full grown adults they will ALL live in 4x2x1.5 custom built enclosures which dwarf a 41qt which you use for your adults. Many of the top breeders and probably a large portion of the people on this forum look at me and say "thats way too big" but I look back and say "thats way too small." Until I see some evidence that the space "stresses" them out I cant help but think its just a fallacy.

[Noek]

before i switched to tubs, I had an aquarium style with a small fake porcelain tree in it. My normal used it all the time. He would sometimes sit up there for hours.

I have both in tubs now and there really isn't any climbing space available. They were both eating and shedding normally and on schedule before and still are; so apparently, it seems either way hasn't affected their behavior much.

There is an off chance I have two really awesome snakes though

I may be partial

[JoshJP7]

Any particular reason you choose not to give him the tree thing in the tub?

[Perry]

You can search "tubs" or even "baby tub" or "juvenile tub". But I'm glad you brought it up, I'll see if we can make a sticky about tub set-ups soon.

I was just thinking that

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Any particular reason you choose not to give him the tree thing in the tub?

Because BP are not arboreal snakes they are ground dwellers, yes they can climb but they can also fall very easily as they are pretty clumsy.

Ground dwellers snakes have different requirements than arboreal snakes.

Would I house a Carpet python in a tub that is 6 inches high? NO

Would I house a BP in a tub that is 15 inches high? NO

If it work for you great, however the height is not needed, and I can tell you that the majority of people housing their BP in plastic tubs use tubs that are no higher than 6/7 inches, if you don't believe me, make a new thread with a poll and you will see for yourself.

[JoshJP7]

Just because the majority of the people do it doesnt mean its right deb. The majority of people do it bc they come on here looking for advice and get told "12 qt tub for baby." Im just curious what about your background makes you qualified to say its not needed? Is exercise not needed for all animals to remain healthy? I was under the impression that the more exercise an animal gets the healthier it will be. Is that not correct? Deb you can run right? What happens when you run and trip on a pot hole or rock? You fall... does that mean you dont run? To say the shouldnt be offered something to climb on bc "they're clumsy" is silly. Aboreal means they spend the MAJORITY of their time in trees... Does that mean they dont come down from time to time? Abosultely not... Just like a ground dweller will climb from time to time... Where do my snakes spend the majority of their time? In their hides. Just because thats where they are the majority of the time doesnt mean when they arnt in there they wont use the extra space.

[Noek]

Any particular reason you choose not to give him the tree thing in the tub?

Well mainly because it wouldn't fit in the new tub.

I don't think she really misses it but I know she doesn't 'need' it. She hasn't missed a feeding yet and is currently in her second shed since I've had her.

She seems happy with two hides, a water dish, and a small container for soggy paper towels

[JoshJP7]

I guess the way I look at it is do I 'need' a 42'' plasma? Do I 'need' another snake? Does my snake 'need' something to climb on... the answer to all of those is no... But does someone or something benefit from a plasma? 11th snake? tree to climb on? yer darn right someone/thing benefits.

[Noek]

let me get this analogy correct, 42" plasma = climbing device for ball python?

Heck, I'm going with the plasma

[JoshJP7]

Ehhhh I dunno if you got the analogy right but yeaaaa you should def go with plasma