Connie, I agree with you on this. It is those people in the snake world that give us good keepers a bad name, by getting entertained by the snake killing the live animal and bragging like it's the best form of entertainment in the world. It's really disgusting to me. I find the way snakes constrict and swallow to be quite facinating, but that is not the reason I feed live to just a couple of my snakes. I've already said it's because they'd rather starve to death than eat anything else. I just want my snakes healthy and on a normal feeding schedule. It's terrible people try to make feeding live seem like a fashion show or similar. That IS exactly at least one of the things that angers a lot of those people getting on other's cases about feeding live.