PETA kills animals

[Wyldmoonwoman]

The "issues" HSUS has is by trying to seriously reduce the number of specific breeds in shelters. Pitbulls overwhelm animal shelters in some areas, and by sterilizing, they can reduce the problem.

Then again, I have nothing against breed specific legislation, when it's warranted, so I don't see the problem in the first place.

This is a passionate subject for me.

My problem with the HSUS is they have singled out a specific breed, the pit bull, and recommend and promote legislation to target a specific breed...which makes it easier to pass BSL in my town. What they should have done is recommend sterilization of all dogs across the board. The HSUS criminalizes pit bull owners, the HSUS calls me a thug and a drug dealer. I am a white upper middle class mom.

The HSUS states that they do not support BSL publicly, but they do when they single out a specific breed and recommend legislation for mandatory s/n of that breed!

It's hipocracy!

I am sorry that you have nothing against breed specific legislation, I really am. BSL does not work. The one simple problem of accurate breed idnetification is a huge issue. And new breeds will fill the spot once they eradicate the pit bull from your town. Enforcing BSL is a huge financial burdon for a municipality. BSL does not make dog owners accountable for their dogs actions. BSL alienates the responsible dog owner and causes the back-yard breeder of unstable dogs to go deeper underground

There are many better, cheaper, more effective alternatives

Put a stop to leash law violations
Strengthen and enforce penalties for dangerous owners and their dangerous dogs
Crack down on dog fighting
Strengthen animal abuse laws
Prevent criminals from owning dogs
Regulate breeders
Fund public spay/neuter initiatives
Educate about dog behavior
Encourage responsible dog ownership
Provide low-cost obedience training classes and behavior help hotlines for dog owners

[Wyldmoonwoman]

sorry for the rant...I should go take my medication, lol

[BallPythonsRule]

I don't see how anyone could support PETA... I hate them so much!
I hate the fact that they are against killing animals but they kill animals too. Ingrid is an ugly piece of... you know. I hate that woman so much!!
I am a nice person, right?
I especially hate that they target young kids like me. There's a poster on that website and it says "Your mommy kills animals"
WTF?!
PETA is a no-no.

[djansen]

I thought PETA was "people eat tasty animals" so that is no suprise that they kill them.

[jhall1468]

This is a passionate subject for me.

My problem with the HSUS is they have singled out a specific breed, the pit bull, and recommend and promote legislation to target a specific breed...which makes it easier to pass BSL in my town. What they should have done is recommend sterilization of all dogs across the board. The HSUS criminalizes pit bull owners, the HSUS calls me a thug and a drug dealer. I am a white upper middle class mom.

There's no question if those quotes were by HSUS, they were completely out of line. I don't think the intent was to call all Pitbull owners drug dealers, thus or anything else, but it certainly comes off that way.

The problem with sterilization of all animals, is that some aren't over bred. In fact, some are under bred. You aren't going to find an Airdale in a shelter around here. So sterilizing Airdale's makes little sense.

While I see your side of things, I see the other side as well. If a shelter is being dominated by a specific breed, I understand the inclination to bring legislation that prevents further problems.

The area I live in is middle class USA. The local shelter has more empty cages than full, so animal legislation hasn't been an issue, at least locally. But I've also seen shelters in other areas that are so over run (and often by a single breed) that they don't even have room for anything else. BSL targets a specific problem.

I think the overwhelming majority of Pit owners are good people. But unfortunately, the breed of dog has a bad history, and it's easy to pass judgment.

The HSUS states that they do not support BSL publicly, but they do when they single out a specific breed and recommend legislation for mandatory s/n of that breed!

It's hipocracy!

Actually, from what little research I've found, Pamela Rogers (the one suggesting the BSL) is the director of HSUS for Kentucky. I saw no indication that this was supported by any higher ups in the organization.

I am sorry that you have nothing against breed specific legislation, I really am. BSL does not work. The one simple problem of accurate breed idnetification is a huge issue. And new breeds will fill the spot once they eradicate the pit bull from your town. Enforcing BSL is a huge financial burdon for a municipality. BSL does not make dog owners accountable for their dogs actions. BSL alienates the responsible dog owner and causes the back-yard breeder of unstable dogs to go deeper underground

I think that's a few too many generalizations for my taste. I certainly don't think that anyone wants to eradicate Pitbulls, inasmuch as they want a problem controlled. Now, it's certainly plausible (even likely) a new breed will become the new "favorite" for animal shelters, that doesn't mean we should simply avoid the issue. Murder is a violation of the law, and even though people still kill other people, we have to continue enforcing the law.

While some BSL may not make dog owners accountable, it should. And if it doesn't, that's simply poorly written legislation, regardless if it's breed specific. The same goes for alienation of responsible owners. If that's the case, it's not bad legislation, it's poorly written.

There are many better, cheaper, more effective alternatives

Put a stop to leash law violations
Strengthen and enforce penalties for dangerous owners and their dangerous dogs
Crack down on dog fighting
Strengthen animal abuse laws
Prevent criminals from owning dogs
Regulate breeders
Fund public spay/neuter initiatives
Educate about dog behavior
Encourage responsible dog ownership
Provide low-cost obedience training classes and behavior help hotlines for dog owners

I agree with most of those. However, many of them would cost far more than BSL to enforce, and more importantly, none of them really focus on the problem that currently exists in St. Louis: They are overrun with stray pit bulls. While preventative legislation is a good thing, it seems some people think it's too late for that in St. Louis. If that's the case, BSL should be an open option.

[steveo]

thank for the link , all though i already knew about peta sick ways :cens0r::cens0r:
ill post this around on other forums to let people know what actually happens

[Jay_Bunny]

I will admit, even as a vegan, I do not like PETA. They have done good things and they have done bad things. Its that way with any group with a passionate purpose. I love animals and I made the switch to veganism 3 weeks ago. I think PETA is mostly there to shock you and be in your face which is not always the best way to handle subjects like this. I'm all for animal rights and I'm all for people being able to have pitbulls. I do not like PETA. The really extreme members don't even like you to have pets. WTF?

[BallPythonsRule]

I will admit, even as a vegan, I do not like PETA. They have done good things and they have done bad things. Its that way with any group with a passionate purpose. I love animals and I made the switch to veganism 3 weeks ago. I think PETA is mostly there to shock you and be in your face which is not always the best way to handle subjects like this. I'm all for animal rights and I'm all for people being able to have pitbulls. I do not like PETA. The really extreme members don't even like you to have pets. WTF?

How can you live without any cheese? Or yummy milk with cookies?!
I respect vegans (Im a vegetarian, exept I sometimes eat fish) but giving that up would be just too much for me.
And I agree about how PETA goes overboard.