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    Re: New keeper and ambient temprature

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    I will tell you he got here from Wilbanks Tuesday and crushed his first feeding this evening, so at least that went well!


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    Re: New keeper and ambient temprature

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    Mike has great animals! My Pied boy came from him as a hatchling and he's about to turn 7 years old in December.

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    I know! Prices are really reasonable too! I picked up a orange dream kingpin, beautiful boy, on the off chance that I want to breed done the road, not nearly as expensive as I thought he’d be.


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    Welcome! Lots to learn here! Thought I'd chime in since I use CHE's and a UTH. -I have a 5 year old male in an animal plastics cage, but I had him in a 40gal for his first two years-

    I keep my UTH at 91 and that side of his tank covered with a very thin layer of coco fiber and sphagnum moss mix (he loves to urinate in his warm hide) - he also has 60 watt CHE on the same side of the tank. Both are on their own thermostats (Herpstat EZ2). In the winter I usually have to add a second CHE on the opposite side of his tank since his tank is so long that the cool side gets too cool.

    To maintain humidity I have two little sauce dishes, one in each rear corner, that has damp (not dripping) sphagnum moss in it and a large lufa-type natural sponge in the middle of the tank. I just moisten these with once or twice a day with warm water. As the moss dries from the CHE's it releases the moisture and usually keeps at 50-55% in the winter. In the summer I only have the sponge if I'm going away for more than 24 hours. With just one moss on the cool side his humidity hovers around 49-53%, when he's in shed I moisten the coco fiber over the CHE which releases really nice humidity for a few days - usually keeps it around 60-70%.

    With a glass tank you will have slightly more trouble, but covering 2/3 of the lid tightly with foil should help. Good luck with your noodle!
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    Re: New keeper and ambient temprature

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    Welcome! Lots to learn here! Thought I'd chime in since I use CHE's and a UTH. -I have a 5 year old male in an animal plastics cage, but I had him in a 40gal for his first two years-

    I keep my UTH at 91 and that side of his tank covered with a very thin layer of coco fiber and sphagnum moss mix (he loves to urinate in his warm hide) - he also has 60 watt CHE on the same side of the tank. Both are on their own thermostats (Herpstat EZ2). In the winter I usually have to add a second CHE on the opposite side of his tank since his tank is so long that the cool side gets too cool.

    To maintain humidity I have two little sauce dishes, one in each rear corner, that has damp (not dripping) sphagnum moss in it and a large lufa-type natural sponge in the middle of the tank. I just moisten these with once or twice a day with warm water. As the moss dries from the CHE's it releases the moisture and usually keeps at 50-55% in the winter. In the summer I only have the sponge if I'm going away for more than 24 hours. With just one moss on the cool side his humidity hovers around 49-53%, when he's in shed I moisten the coco fiber over the CHE which releases really nice humidity for a few days - usually keeps it around 60-70%.

    With a glass tank you will have slightly more trouble, but covering 2/3 of the lid tightly with foil should help. Good luck with your noodle!
    Question for you... how do you place a CHE in an Animal Plastics enclosure? I have an AP enclosure as well, with RHP, but just curious how you use the CHE. Do you have a hole on top of the enclosure?

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    Re: New keeper and ambient temprature

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    Question for you... how do you place a CHE in an Animal Plastics enclosure? I have an AP enclosure as well, with RHP, but just curious how you use the CHE. Do you have a hole on top of the enclosure?

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    To my surprise, AP offers a circle to be cut out on top and they cover it with a screen. It's an additional "option".
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    Re: New keeper and ambient temprature

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    To my surprise, AP offers a circle to be cut out on top and they cover it with a screen. It's an additional "option".

    Not sure if you're still checking older posts, but just wanted to tell you your advice worked well! A little trial and error over the past week with a CHE and dimmer, but my ambient temps are in the 80s now and my humidity has been sitting comfortable in the 60s for a couple of days now with no misting needed. Still running the UTH at 90 under the hot hide, but other than that I think we're finally in a comfortable spot!

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    Re: New keeper and ambient temprature

    Quote Originally Posted by Hugsplox View Post
    Not sure if you're still checking older posts, but just wanted to tell you your advice worked well! A little trial and error over the past week with a CHE and dimmer, but my ambient temps are in the 80s now and my humidity has been sitting comfortable in the 60s for a couple of days now with no misting needed. Still running the UTH at 90 under the hot hide, but other than that I think we're finally in a comfortable spot!
    That awesome! Great job on tinkering with the CHE. Honestly, the initial setup is the hardest thing. Sounds like you have things dialed in.

    Let me know if you notice a behavior change with your BP. I'm always interested to see if their behavior changes during warmer temps. Also, be sure to keep an eye on that CHE during warmer weather since you only have it on a dimmer.

    If you ever make a leap into PVC enclosures like Animal Plastics, things get even easier. You don't have to monitor temps as much and humidity stays relatively the same.
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    Re: New keeper and ambient temprature

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    That awesome! Great job on tinkering with the CHE. Honestly, the initial setup is the hardest thing. Sounds like you have things dialed in.

    Be sure to keep an eye on that CHE during warmer weather since you only have it on a dimmer.

    If you ever make a leap into PVC enclosures like Animal Plastics, things get even easier. You don't have to monitor temps as much and humidity stays relatively the same.
    I will for sure. I work from home and looks like will continue to do so, and all my guys are in my office. It's a little warm for me lol but perfect for them so I don't complain. I think it helps a lot that my warmer temp animals are in here keeping the ambient temps up. I am looking at the PVC enclosures specifically the Animal Plastics, but haven't pulled the trigger yet. I'm still debating on if I want to go ahead and get the order in (since their lead times are a little long) or wait until my guy gets a little bigger. I guess it doesn't really matter lol

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    Re: New keeper and ambient temprature

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    I'm still debating on if I want to go ahead and get the order in (since their lead times are a little long) or wait until my guy gets a little bigger. I guess it doesn't really matter lol
    Yea, take your time. There's no hurry.

    If you do pull the trigger, look into the T10. It has a little bit more height, which makes a difference when you clean. Also, splurge on the divider. It cuts the enclosure in half so it makes keeping a small BP much easier. Once your BP gets up to size, you can take it out.
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    Re: New keeper and ambient temprature

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    Yea, take your time. There's no hurry.

    If you do pull the trigger, look into the T10. It has a little bit more height, which makes a difference when you clean. Also, splurge on the divider. It cuts the enclosure in half so it makes keeping a small BP much easier. Once your BP gets up to size, you can take it out.
    I'm glad you brought that up I was actually going to ask. I've seen some back and forth about smaller BPs in big enclosures specifically when I started looking into the T10. Some folks say it's a no no but others have said it's cool if you have enough clutter. I think I'd like to go with a RHP and I'm wondering if the divider would interfere with that.

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