Honestly I think they may both be enchi, no fire. The pics aren't very bright, if you could get a little better lighting we could probably confirm, i think i see the enchi head stamp on both and they both look reduced and have that thick eye stripe enchi gets but I'm not seeing enough to confirm 100% on either.
Here are some updated pics... @rufretic my friend said the same thing you said... Enchi with reduced pattern. Also mentioned that he thinks the second one might have Pastel, but no 100% confident.
Last edited by BRD; 07-04-2020 at 01:31 PM.
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