Thanks for all the info! Though I'm not good with DIY and am looking to buy one. The tub sizes from places I was looking at were confusing to me; I was looking at both Freedom Breeder and Vision Cages on their rodent racks and didn't know what sizes would be appropriate for the different rodents. With the hamsters I was thinking of doing bin set-ups I've seen on YouTube cuz simple DIY is all I'm really confident I know how to do well...cuz that's literally just cutting a big hole in the lid, replacing it with a hard wire, and using zip ties to hold the wire in place lol








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