It has come to this but its OK.

[EL-Ziggy]

Nice equipment Gio. I think I'll end up getting a pair of those gloves. You're doing a great job with Wallace and all your critters. I'm really glad you've stuck it out with him. Is he mostly cage defensive and how is he once you get him out? He reminds me a lot of my scrub. He's gotten quite a bit better in the 14 months that I've had him, but like you I've accepted that he'll most likely not be a very mellow fellow. It's a pita sometimes but I kinda like the challenge. I have 11 snakes and 9 of them are really placid. My female bull get's a little huffy sometimes and the scrub always has me on high alert. I think it's good to get a little bit of that wild attitude from them sometimes . It let's you know you're alive!!

[Gio]

Nice equipment Gio. I think I'll end up getting a pair of those gloves. You're doing a great job with Wallace and all your critters. I'm really glad you've stuck it out with him. Is he mostly cage defensive and how is he once you get him out? He reminds me a lot of my scrub. He's gotten quite a bit better in the 14 months that I've had him, but like you I've accepted that he'll most likely not be a very mellow fellow. It's a pita sometimes but I kinda like the challenge. I have 11 snakes and 9 of them are really placid. My female bull get's a little huffy sometimes and the scrub always has me on high alert. I think it's good to get a little bit of that wild attitude from them sometimes . It let's you know you're alive!!

Thanks Zig,

I’m fairly sure it’s mostly cage related along with the hair trigger food response. However I was trying to get him out recently like I normally do and he wrapped my hand. I quickly unwound him and I noticed he was starting to face off with me.

Because of that I decided I’d better prepare for the worst case scenario.

One down side to my fancy cage would be the perches. They are great for him and viewing but he spends much of his time up there. I have to wait until he’s on the floor to get him out. Otherwise he’ll hold on and get edgy.

[Bogertophis]

... I think it's good to get a little bit of that wild attitude from them sometimes . It let's you know you're alive!!

I enjoy my mellow rat snakes & all, but that's ^ ^ ^ what I miss about having rattle-brats around. My Korean rat snake does pretty well at filling in for them though.

"Variety is the spice of life!" Just work safe & stay safe...