I think you both need a Trans Pecos rat snake too...they stay about 4' as adults & are docile* and nosy....very cute snakes!(*at least I've never met one
that wasn't docile...mine have all been normal phase, in case that's a factor-) The normals are about the color of the snake in photo under my name, but that's not a T.P.plus they have big goofy eyes, what's not to love?