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    Re: BP acts weird when feeding/won't eat

    Quote Originally Posted by RyanTheNoodleMan View Post

    .... I generally only hold once a week unless the snake is calm with being handled then I sometimes take them out another time but I haven't held him since he started refusing all food.
    Sometimes I wonder if people read what is posted very carefully. He said he hasn't handled since it has started refusing.
    Also please quote to me where he said or even implied he fed every night. I didn't see that, he didn't say how often he fed at all.

    I agree about the feeder size. And I agree about maybe feeding live for a while. Feeding at night and in front of the hide with dim light is good.

    To OP, I would wait a week since your last offering. Maybe feed an adult live mouse. When doing f/t you could try what I did with great success last night. I laid the frozen feeder above the enclosure for an hour. My snake came out smelling and reaching upward toward the feeder. Which is usually always does. Then after that hour with the feeder still pretty frozen and having got my snakes attention. I just dropped it in an old ice cream bucket with cool water, (faucet cool ) after about another half hour with the belly now soft and defrosted I heated it up real good with the hair dryer till the fur was real dry and warm and the feeder was up to about a hundred. Using my temp gun I waited till it dropped to the upper 80's and put it in and it was bam.

    I use to leave it out till total air thaw but I have compromised with Bogertophis one hour air which gets my snake out and hungry then cool water thaw away from the enclosure (in old ice cream bucket set inside bath tub) and then the hair dryer. Worked like a charm. I didn't use a bag I just put it in cool water but you can use a bag if you want. PS This new method of air/cool water cuts thawing time about an hour. This feeder chart is great to use.

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    Re: BP acts weird when feeding/won't eat

    Quote Originally Posted by ballpythonsrock2 View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if people read what is posted very carefully. He said he hasn't handled since it has started refusing...
    Can't speak for others but this caught my attention & suggests there was too much handling prior to the snake going off-feed:

    OP: "So my 9 month old super mojave paradox bp that I got when he was about 3 months old has always had problems with eating."




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    Re: BP acts weird when feeding/won't eat

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    Can't speak for others but this caught my attention & suggests there was too much handling prior to the snake going off-feed:

    OP: "So my 9 month old super mojave paradox bp that I got when he was about 3 months old has always had problems with eating."





    I wasn't handling constantly but I know even a little handling will stress them out. I always put him back if he seemed really scared (not moving, tongue not flickering..). If that is the case, what else can I do to help him calm down? I've completely stopped handing since he quit eating.

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    Re: BP acts weird when feeding/won't eat

    Quote Originally Posted by ballpythonsrock2 View Post
    Sometimes I wonder if people read what is posted very carefully. He said he hasn't handled since it has started refusing.
    Also please quote to me where he said or even implied he fed every night. I didn't see that, he didn't say how often he fed at all.

    I agree about the feeder size. And I agree about maybe feeding live for a while. Feeding at night and in front of the hide with dim light is good.

    To OP, I would wait a week since your last offering. Maybe feed an adult live mouse. When doing f/t you could try what I did with great success last night. I laid the frozen feeder above the enclosure for an hour. My snake came out smelling and reaching upward toward the feeder. Which is usually always does. Then after that hour with the feeder still pretty frozen and having got my snakes attention. I just dropped it in an old ice cream bucket with cool water, (faucet cool ) after about another half hour with the belly now soft and defrosted I heated it up real good with the hair dryer till the fur was real dry and warm and the feeder was up to about a hundred. Using my temp gun I waited till it dropped to the upper 80's and put it in and it was bam.

    I use to leave it out till total air thaw but I have compromised with Bogertophis one hour air which gets my snake out and hungry then cool water thaw away from the enclosure (in old ice cream bucket set inside bath tub) and then the hair dryer. Worked like a charm. I didn't use a bag I just put it in cool water but you can use a bag if you want. PS This new method of air/cool water cuts thawing time about an hour. This feeder chart is great to use.
    Thank you for reading everything! I used to feed every week when he was actually eating since he didn't move up to appropriate sized rats but now that he's stopped completely I just offer whenever I go to feed my other snake which is every 10 days.

    I've considered feeding live but I really hate having to do that. I'm going to try what you said with the f/t but if I'm not able to get him to eat after all of this I'm going to try live.

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    Re: BP acts weird when feeding/won't eat

    Quote Originally Posted by RyanTheNoodleMan View Post
    Thank you for reading everything! I used to feed every week when he was actually eating since he didn't move up to appropriate sized rats but now that he's stopped completely I just offer whenever I go to feed my other snake which is every 10 days.

    I've considered feeding live but I really hate having to do that. I'm going to try what you said with the f/t but if I'm not able to get him to eat after all of this I'm going to try live.
    I see this all the time on here... "I don't want to feed the animal live prey..." May I ask why? In your situation, outside of the fact that the prey you are offering is undersized, I would imagine the animal was fed live prior to you owning it... That being said i'm not surprised you have had issues.. What I have the biggest problem with in that statement is that you continue to let a younger snake go hungry and noticeably lose weight because YOU don't want to feed it live.. That's not fair at all to the animal.. What's even slightly more insulting is that we attempted to help you and you have apparently not taken any of our advice because it isn't what you wanted to hear.. I feel bad for the animal in all honesty..

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    Re: BP acts weird when feeding/won't eat

    Quote Originally Posted by Moose84 View Post
    I see this all the time on here... "I don't want to feed the animal live prey..." May I ask why? In your situation, outside of the fact that the prey you are offering is undersized, I would imagine the animal was fed live prior to you owning it... That being said i'm not surprised you have had issues.. What I have the biggest problem with in that statement is that you continue to let a younger snake go hungry and noticeably lose weight because YOU don't want to feed it live.. That's not fair at all to the animal.. What's even slightly more insulting is that we attempted to help you and you have apparently not taken any of our advice because it isn't what you wanted to hear.. I feel bad for the animal in all honesty..
    Because I don't want an animal to be killed for no reason when I feel like something else is causing him to stop eating. No, he wasn't fed live before I got him. If I have to feed live then I will but I want to know the reason why he isn't eating what I offer now before I start offering live.

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    Re: BP acts weird when feeding/won't eat

    Do you feel like what you are feeding him now is an appropriate size? I feel like you might have you head in the sand with that one a little bit. There has been 3-4 people who have told you that what you are trying to feed him is too small and you are still saying "I need to figure out why he is doing this..."

    Ok, you haven't handled him... Fine... Ok you try every 10 days... That's all fine and well... It doesn't correct the fact that what you are attempting to feed him isn't working and is too small... In my opinion I would have already went to a live mouse because that snake is young... It's not a 1200 gram, 3 year old female who can handle longer fasts..

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