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    DG brightens the colors, cleans up the pattern and enhances the contrast, some combos get brighter with age but most just keep that fresh out of the egg brightness which almost all other morphs tend to either darken or fade with age, some become muddied. But I've not see a DG combo decrease in attractiveness as they age.

    If your baby is not a DG, after the first shed it probably will not look quite as clean and bright and it will become more obvious in time. If it is DG it will look just as bright and clean as it does now if not more so. I don't have experience with just a single morph visual DG though, all of mine are multiple morph combos but I believe all I've said should still apply.

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    Re: Is this a normal or something more?

    Great explanation.
    I'll try my best to figure it out. And hopefully get it right lol.
    Thanks for your help.

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    Re: Is this a normal or something more?

    Update on the clutch...

    4 out of the 5 hatchlings have come out so far. There is a lot of variance between them all.
    The one of the left and bottom are clearly visually brighter.
    They still have to shed out though.

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    Re: Is this a normal or something more?

    Do the two reduced pattern snakes have black railroad tracks on the belly towards the tip of the tail?
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    Re: Is this a normal or something more?

    The photos below are of the bellies of the reduced pattern ones. Why do you ask?

    I also believe that the very dark hatchlings father is my gravel due to the belly and flames it has. As this was potentially a dual clutch.

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    Re: Is this a normal or something more?

    Quote Originally Posted by morphanatics View Post
    The photos below are of the bellies of the reduced pattern ones. Why do you ask?
    The tracks (if they were there-which they are not) would have coincided with the reduced patterning, 50% offspring ratio, slightly brighter coloration, and large head stamps to suggest Orange Dream.

    Orange dream in a low expression form is not obvious and the gene is widely being used as a pattern reducer/color enhancer in all sorts of projects. From the photos: Neither of the parents appeared to have orange dream--so it would have been a head-scratcher if that was the case.
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    Re: Is this a normal or something more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Sorril View Post
    The tracks (if they were there-which they are not) would have coincided with the reduced patterning, 50% offspring ratio, slightly brighter coloration, and large head stamps to suggest Orange Dream.

    Orange dream in a low expression form is not obvious and the gene is widely being used as a pattern reducer/color enhancer in all sorts of projects. From the photos: Neither of the parents appeared to have orange dream--so it would have been a head-scratcher if that was the case.
    Okay thanks. It definitely would have been a head scratcher. Although the reduced pattern father also has a kind of orange colouring to him.

    I'm really struggling to be sure of what they could be. I'm not sure if they are what desert ghost would look like as I'm new to this all.

    But I'm pretty sure that that I do have a gravel hatchlings and a normal. Other than that I'm unsure.

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    Re: Is this a normal or something more?

    UPDATE...

    The first one to hatch has just shed her skin.
    Although the others are yet to shed, she is clearly a lot more brighter and crisp than the others.
    I feel as though she could be desert ghost But as I've never never seen one in person and I'm new to all this it's hard to tell.

    If anyone has any idea or thinks they know what else she could be, please help me out. Thanks.


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    Imo that bottom one is desert ghost, the strong head blushing and bright clean color scream DG. But I think you have another gene at play in this clutch too. The bottom left doesn't look normal but I don't think it's desert ghost. I'm not sure what it is but the reduced pattern and light color make me think it has to be something, fire comes to mind but that's just a guess.

    Congrats on the desert ghost!

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    Re: Is this a normal or something more?

    Quote Originally Posted by rufretic View Post
    Imo that bottom one is desert ghost, the strong head blushing and bright clean color scream DG. But I think you have another gene at play in this clutch too. The bottom left doesn't look normal but I don't think it's desert ghost. I'm not sure what it is but the reduced pattern and light color make me think it has to be something, fire comes to mind but that's just a guess.

    Congrats on the desert ghost!
    I thought the same. It just seemed too bright and clean. But I just needed clarification as I'm certainly no expert.

    I agree, two that I believe are Gravels are dark. But the others which I believe are from the DH axanthic/Desert ghost male all have a orange kind of look to them and some reduced pattern.

    I'm not sure how I can really be sure what else is going on there.

    Do you think the desert ghost hatchling also has possibly fire in it, for it to be so bright?

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