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Re: Vivarium separating?
 Originally Posted by Sophieg
I know it still wouldn't be completely right but if I took it apart, put it back together and siliconed all the sides properly to prevent anymore moisture from getting in, would that prevent it from getting any worse? I really need to keep this viv, just spent a load of money on a complete new set up!
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It's tough to tell in the pics (I'm on my phone) but it looks like the wood has taken on moisture. If that's the case the structural integrity of the wood itself has already started to break down and will only get worse.
But....i can't see it all that well so it's tough to say
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Re: Vivarium separating?
 Originally Posted by craigafrechette
It's tough to tell in the pics (I'm on my phone) but it looks like the wood has taken on moisture. If that's the case the structural integrity of the wood itself has already started to break down and will only get worse.
But....i can't see it all that well so it's tough to say
You're exactly right. It'd be possible to fix, but I have wood working tools and the knowledge to do it.
The item in question is made from particle board sheeting and the edges that are exposed are swollen and have taken on water. There is bandaging it, but there is no permanent fix.
In the future, something made of CDPVC would serve you much better for thing type of application.
Best,
Paul
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I just got to this thread & pbenner beat me to it in above post: that does not appear to be "real" (solid) wood, but rather particle-board core with some kind of
veneer on the outside. Don't waste your time on it, and so sorry you wasted your money on it. Particle board is used in all sorts of inexpensive 'furniture' but does
not hold up well, especially to moisture. It looked nice to start with, I'm sure, but you were "had"...it falls apart easily. Best bet for a corn snake, get a 30-40 gal.
glass tank (many chain pet stores have $1/per gal. sales on glass tanks regularly) with a secure lid. If you live near me, I have an extra one cheap...
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Re: Vivarium separating?
 Originally Posted by Bogertophis
I just got to this thread & pbenner beat me to it in above post: that does not appear to be "real" (solid) wood, but rather particle-board core with some kind of
veneer on the outside. Don't waste your time on it, and so sorry you wasted your money on it. Particle board is used in all sorts of inexpensive 'furniture' but does
not hold up well, especially to moisture. It looked nice to start with, I'm sure, but you were "had"...it falls apart easily. Best bet for a corn snake, get a 30-40 gal.
glass tank (many chain pet stores have $1/per gal. sales on glass tanks regularly) with a secure lid. If you live near me, I have an extra one cheap... 
I've been trying to find glass tanks near me, seeing as u have used $ I'm guessing we don't live near eachother seeing as I'm in the UK lol. Anyway, the only glass tanks I can find r ridiculously expensive, cheap but broken or way too far for me to get to 
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Re: Vivarium separating?
 Originally Posted by pbenner
You're exactly right. It'd be possible to fix, but I have wood working tools and the knowledge to do it.
The item in question is made from particle board sheeting and the edges that are exposed are swollen and have taken on water. There is bandaging it, but there is no permanent fix.
In the future, something made of CDPVC would serve you much better for thing type of application.
Best,
Paul
 Originally Posted by Bogertophis
I just got to this thread & pbenner beat me to it in above post: that does not appear to be "real" (solid) wood, but rather particle-board core with some kind of
veneer on the outside. Don't waste your time on it, and so sorry you wasted your money on it. Particle board is used in all sorts of inexpensive 'furniture' but does
not hold up well, especially to moisture. It looked nice to start with, I'm sure, but you were "had"...it falls apart easily. Best bet for a corn snake, get a 30-40 gal.
glass tank (many chain pet stores have $1/per gal. sales on glass tanks regularly) with a secure lid. If you live near me, I have an extra one cheap... 
I couldn't even tell it was particle board. In that case, it's definitely not worth fixing. Unfortunately, particle board is junk as soon as it takes on moisture. It's basically glued wood shavings that are pressed. Once wet it just crumbles away.
Sorry for the bad news, but I can't see repairing particle board.
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BTW, I also don't think silicone would hold the weight of that thing together. When someone mentioned "sealing" for moisture, there are water-proofing
finishes that dry non-toxic & are used for coating 'real' wood (ie. solid wood) enclosures, but they won't do anything for particle-board (fake wood). And
yes, silicone is used to waterproof corners of glass tanks so they don't leak water, but the particle-board crumbles with every little movement...I don't
think that will hold this together, sorry. The only way you might (-I'm not saying "should") salvage this is to install a solid wood framework around all
the corners (using right angle wood molding- ask a place that sells custom lumber)...but no guarantee. For the money & hassle, just buy a glass tank,
especially if you've never worked at all with wood. (I've been making my own wood & screen tops for tanks for years, also finishing furniture and even
converting some cabinets to house snakes.)
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Re: Vivarium separating?
 Originally Posted by Sophieg
I've been trying to find glass tanks near me, seeing as u have used $ I'm guessing we don't live near eachother seeing as I'm in the UK lol. Anyway, the only glass tanks I can find r ridiculously expensive, cheap but broken or way too far for me to get to
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I've got a few I could give you if ypu were local. They're just taking up space in my basement. You'd be doing me a favor by taking them.
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Re: Vivarium separating?
 Originally Posted by Bogertophis
BTW, I also don't think silicone would hold the weight of that thing together. When someone mentioned "sealing" for moisture, there are water-proofing
finishes that dry non-toxic & are used for coating 'real' wood (ie. solid wood) enclosures, but they won't do anything for particle-board (fake wood). And
yes, silicone is used to waterproof corners of glass tanks so they don't leak water, but the particle-board crumbles with every little movement...I don't
think that will hold this together, sorry. The only way you might (-I'm not saying "should") salvage this is to install a solid wood framework around all
the corners (using right angle wood molding- ask a place that sells custom lumber)...but no guarantee. For the money & hassle, just buy a glass tank,
especially if you've never worked at all with wood. (I've been making my own wood & screen tops for tanks for years, also finishing furniture and even
converting some cabinets to house snakes.)
If i could get a glass 1 I would lol.. it's just there's either the £230 exo terra 1 which is not in my price range and then the second hand ones r either broken or way too far away from me.. 
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Re: Vivarium separating?
 Originally Posted by craigafrechette
I've got a few I could give you if ypu were local. They're just taking up space in my basement. You'd be doing me a favor by taking them.
Yea that could work! What sizes?
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Re: Vivarium separating?
 Originally Posted by craigafrechette
I've got a few I could give you if ypu were local. They're just taking up space in my basement. You'd be doing me a favor by taking them.
Same here, just quick paddle across "the pond". (we should stop with the "torture", eh?)
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