Keeping mice in the same room as my snake?

[Bogertophis]

BTW, if a rodent happens to pee on your hands, be aware that washing your hands may not remove all the smell...your snake may still consider it edible.

[MR Snakes]

Thank you for the kind response, I was feeding fuzzies cause that's what they where feeding him when I bought him and fuzzies where about the same size as his girth (I was going by that too) he was a little guy and as now grown a bit as I upgraded his size 3 weeks ago and wanting to upgrade again, but he is kind of in a weird in between size where a hopper is kind of small, but the next size up is kind of big, and two hoppers seems like alot. i asked a seperate question about it a the same time I posted this that suggested switching to rat fuzzies. I was planning on looking into. And thank you for not bringing up the feeding situation. I'm really done with that right now. Lol

I don't know if anyone has welcomed you yet, but welcome to the tribe. You have survived indoctrination!

[Kenzieburgess]

Nobody said to shut your mouth and not speak and that you're the worst person! People bring it up, since it's actually also related to your first few posts about your ball python being hissy/defensive and also about refusing f/t, in terms of husbandry. People look at husbandry and care as a whole, since it's connected- everything is put together to make a healthy, happy snake.

Snakes that are moved to a tub to feed have a very hard time switching to f/t prey (due to the reasons listed).

It's just when proper husbandry is repeatedly argued against by someone who just got one snake, of course people will want you to have correct care rather than incorrect.

I think I mentioned before, idk theres alot..., but I tried feeding in the tank too and fed in tank when I first got him cause I didnt wanna stress him out more by moving him around so much during his first few feedings with me. Iv tried what I think is everything I can to get him to switch but litterally runs away from the ft, and I cant bring myself to let him go hungry till he eventually decides to eat it cause hes starving, a method I read online for that. But what do i know? I'm just tied of arguing about everything I do wrong. Still I dont think I'm wrong for feeding the way I do, I think it's old school and different than what you guys do now but not necessarily wrong. But whatever I'm done arguing and repeating myself. Thank you tho.

[Craiga 01453]

I've never kept rats or mice in my snake room.
I do have ferrets and they share the room with my snakes. The snakes don't act any differently, all handle well, are in no way cage aggressive and never even seem to notice the ferrets.
I know you didn't ask about ferrets, they're not even rodents, but I figure it was experience that is relevant and worth sharing.

Something to think about: maybe the reason the thread snowballed into a thread about feeding tubs is because it's an important part of keeping snakes. We're honestly trying to help you. We were ALL new once.

...but you need to be receptive rather than defensive. Nobody told you to shut your mouth, nobody said you were stupid or the worst person ever or any of the other words you came up with on your own.

We're trying to help. You've clearly been misinformed and still have a lot of learning to do (we ALL have learning to do). So embrace what you're learning, listen to experienced keepers. We're trying to help you to enjoy this hobby as much as we do by trying to make your first experience a positive experience for you and your new pet.

If you open your ears and accept constructive criticism you'll find this is a fantastic resource for keepers everywhere from newbies to experienced, successful breeders.

[WhompingWillow]

Many people have already given some excellent advice on this thread. I took a quick look through your other posts and do recommend, as others have, that you get a scale so that you can get a weight on your BP. That will give you and us a better idea of what size rodent to feed. BP's can be a bit finicky, but usually do well once you get husbandry sorted out.

Whereabouts in Indiana are you? I'm up in NWI.

[pretends2bnormal]

I think I mentioned before, idk theres alot..., but I tried feeding in the tank too and fed in tank when I first got him cause I didnt wanna stress him out more by moving him around so much during his first few feedings with me. Iv tried what I think is everything I can to get him to switch but litterally runs away from the ft, and I cant bring myself to let him go hungry till he eventually decides to eat it cause hes starving, a method I read online for that. But what do i know? I'm just tied of arguing about everything I do wrong. Still I dont think I'm wrong for feeding the way I do, I think it's old school and different than what you guys do now but not necessarily wrong. But whatever I'm done arguing and repeating myself. Thank you tho.

I wonder if some of his early refusals of the f/t were just being shy in a new place before he had fully settled in? I have one particularly shy 2018 BP who will take F/T now after she took a live meal with me first, but will instantly drop it and not eat to watch me if I stay close, move her tub, or move at all... it's a juggling act with her. May be worth a repeat try in the cage with f/t just to see if he's more interested now that he's settled more, and presumably eaten(?). (I haven't seen all your posts, so sorry if I'm mistaking what you've said here!)

As for the original topic. I just got a new BP from an expo and due to recent stocking issues where I have access to live mice/rats (i.e. always out of smaller sizes like baby BPs need.. fuzzy/rat pups and adult mice), I did grab several mice at the expo. She has only had live mice previously and I'm planning to attempt a switch to frozen after a few solid meals with me. But in the meantime, I have a few mice in a bin-cage in my QT room. I don't have any other rooms to put them in and don't want feeders in my main snake room with my more food-motivated species.
It's only been a few days and I can't say how much of her watching is smelling food vs her personality, so I'll have to update later if I have any issues, especially once she's settled enough to do some handling.

I don't plan to do keep mice there long-term, though I've considered using the QT room for rat breeding if I get too many more rat-eating snake species... not enough space in the main room and no other spaces available at my house.

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[Stewart_Reptiles]

Alright I think we are done here