Probe Placement spin-off

[VereMyth]

...Wow all this because the OP decided to try and prove veterans wrong? What is so difficult about doing this the already established way?

I for one did not sandwich my probes which I do rather regret for my ball pythons(I now have to check tape every couple of hours to make sure it's holding until I can get some super aluminum tape for the underside of my one terrarium that is in use.)

[SquirmyPug]

There's nothing difficult about doing it the already established way and I'm not recommending anything else. But when someone already has an UTH stuck in place I don't see any reason to tell them they have to peel it up and risk damage just to put the probe under it. The amount of liquid from a ball python will not cause damaging heat fluctuations. The probe is securely held in place.

I don't know why people seem to think experience has anything to do with this. I have had reptiles including ball pythons a little over 10 years but have recently changed things up a bit. This is the first time I've had a probe set up like this but it's simply not as dangerous as many of you say.

You can have the probe inside. Under the right circumstances, as I've said. That's all I've said. Not saying it's better, but it's an option if you want to take the precautions I have.

[jmcrook]

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[zina10]

If you can't peel off a UTH heater OR your probe is to big to sandwich between UTH and tank, you can put it UNDER the UTH as long as you put something UNDER the probe (length of entire enclosure) to keep the probe in place and touching the UTH, secured and safe. Like something along the lines of styro foam, with a small indentation for the probe to sit in.

You say this is the "first" time you've put the probe like this, and its simply not as dangerous. So...you admit you've not done this for long, yet your short observation trumps years and tons of experts advice ? Some of it based on mistakes that animals had to pay for.

You keep saying "under the right circumstance" its totally safe.

So, for arguments sake, exactly what are those circumstances. 1. in a glass tank 2. PVC or plastic cage 3. Tub ! Using no glue, tape nor screws, like you already said you didn't. Also...keeping the cable that goes to the probe safe and keeping the snake safe from entanglement.

Just exactly what do you do that is SO great and SO easy and SO sure that its better then to simply put the probe where it belongs. Right on top (or bottom if secured right) of the UTH. And is your animals safety worth that ?

[SquirmyPug]

Just exactly what do you do that is SO great and SO easy and SO sure that its better then to simply put the probe where it belongs. Right on top (or bottom if secured right) of the UTH. And is your animals safety worth that ?

You're putting words in my mouth that I never said. It's an option. It's not terribly dangerous. I haven't had the probe set up like this but for a few months, but it's knowledge of how heat transfers that tells me it wouldn't cause a dangerous temperature spike.

[zina10]

Ok.

So how do you do it.

In one or all of:

1. glass tank
2. PVC or Plastic cage
3. Tub

Its a simple question, esp. since you keep mentioning that your way makes it a safe way. So what is your way?

[CALM Pythons]

Freakin Joke.


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[PitOnTheProwl]

You're putting words in my mouth that I never said. It's an option. It's not terribly dangerous. I haven't had the probe set up like this but for a few months, but it's knowledge of how heat transfers that tells me it wouldn't cause a dangerous temperature spike.

You forgot a main factor. Probe placement has less to do with heat transfer than you are trying to take credit for. Environmental factors you cant control also play a small part like fluid spills. The main player is the animal you cant control. I have seen them move things you thought were secure, bust cables and probes that were hot glued secure. They are basically a destroyer and bulldozer of most things put into an enclosure.
You do you young pup, we wouldnt take our own personal time to just type a bunch of words for no reason at all, the old dogs get to relax on the porch for a reason.

Sure wish my crayola was still floating around..... FYI PhotoBucket SUCKS!!

[Craiga 01453]

All the time and frustration spent on this thread could have been used to move the probe and set up the enlosure properly. Just saying...

[Craiga 01453]

Sure wish my crayola was still floating around..... FYI PhotoBucket SUCKS!!

I'll send you a new box of crayolas. That diagram was perfect. Hahahahaha.