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Re: Survivability Advice - kinks
 Originally Posted by Crowfingers
I just want to help them understand what they are in for if they try to raise it. Maybe it will get easier to swallow prey when it's muscles get stronger with age - but they should also know that that might not be the case.
yes, the muscles get stronger as they develop and the snake learns how to control it more. but their muscles are used more for constricting prey or for their movement. their muscles help move food down their esphogus, but it doesn't force it down (and it def doesn't compact it to a nice, smaller size). that is why they will regurge if the prey is too big. unfortunately i'm afraid if this poor snake is having trouble passing mice fuzzies, it will continue to have trouble. it sounds like prey has to pass the kink to get to the stomach and i would be afraid of the snake choking b/c of the added Spider derp/wobble as it tries to pass the kink before it can spit the food. it would be a lifetime of care observed and assist feeding. and w/ the wobble, depending on severity, there would be alotta corkscrews and barrel roll type movements and times when u check on your SPider and u think they're dead b/c their flipped over but really that's how they sometimes like to coil/sleeping upside down.
the owner can give it a good fighting chance but has also has the responsibility (w/ feedback from their vets) to know when one or both (owner and/or animal) are at wits end. i know a guy that had to put down a Panda b/c of a kink. can u imagine how that feels? ugh. but i'm glad that u work w/ vets and have experience in both the healing of animals, their end of life and counseling their owners. that last part is undervalued and can be just as important in animal care.
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Re: Survivability Advice - kinks
 Originally Posted by Ax01
the owner can give it a good fighting chance but has also has the responsibility (w/ feedback from their vets) to know when one or both (owner and/or animal) are at wits end. i know a guy that had to put down a Panda b/c of a kink. can u imagine how that feels? ugh. but i'm glad that u work w/ vets and have experience in both the healing of animals, their end of life and counseling their owners. that last part is undervalued and can be just as important in animal care.
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Re: Survivability Advice - kinks
Saw the little one today (79 grams, bad shed, underweight, typical pet store snake)- I don't have a lot of hope, I have some pictures that the owner gave me permission to post. (His shed is terrible and we spent a good hour talking proper husbandry even if this one doesn't make it). Also I don't see any spider in it, so the head wobble isn't from that gene- it's not severe but he bobs whenever holding it up. They are going to take him home over the weekend and discuss QOL. They still want to try feeding an appropriate sized meal, I don't know how it will go.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...568/image0.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...628/fixed1.jpg
Last edited by Crowfingers; 10-26-2018 at 07:54 PM.
 No cage is too large - nature is the best template - a snoot can't be booped too much
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Re: Survivability Advice - kinks
 Originally Posted by Crowfingers
Saw the little one today (79 grams, bad shed, underweight, typical pet store snake)- I don't have a lot of hope, I have some pictures that the owner gave me permission to post. (His shed is terrible and we spent a good hour talking proper husbandry even if this one doesn't make it). Also I don't see any spider in it, so the head wobble isn't from that gene- it's not severe but he bobs whenever holding it up. They are going to take him home over the weekend and discuss QOL. They still want to try feeding an appropriate sized meal, I don't know how it will go.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...568/image0.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...628/fixed1.jpg
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