Newish but want to try breeding

[Coluber42]

Thank you for the reply.

What I was thinking was a black pastel piebald and shoot for (pandas) I think is what they are called. Super black pastel pied, I think they look super cool. But I guess I'm not super familiar with the market, and I'll do some research, I'd love to start super basic and kind of produce my way up to some awesome animals! But that probably isnt the most realistic goal...

Thanks again

Just bear in mind that "producing your way" toward the morph you're after also involves lots of baby normals, (possible)-het-for-something's, etc, and that the market for these is pretty saturated. A saturated market doesn't just mean that you don't sell them for much; it may also mean you have a hard time finding good homes for them at all, or you give/sell them as feeders for species that like to eat other snakes, or you give them to whatever pet store will take them, which will sell them to cheap to people who buy them on impulse. A saturated market means lots of snakes in bad shape on Craigslist or in rescue organizations because someone lost interest or couldn't figure out how to house them correctly or get them to eat.

But that's a good reason to spend the money on more expensive animals with more genes up front so that you can get to the combos you're after in fewer generations - i.e, with fewer "byproduct" hatchlings that will need to be housed and cared for by someone for decades.

In other words, paying attention to the market and spending money on snakes that are more likely to produce a high percentage of offspring that are visual for at least *something* reasonably desirable isn't just about how much money you can get for your hatchlings, it also has implications for the welfare of those hatchlings.