What to add and possibly pair with my Pastel

[Stewart_Reptiles]

You all crack me up to judge just because someone is interested in breeding bp’s i am guessing you are all breeders who lost money because everyone does it so someone being curious pisses you off and you act like children

Been doing this 12 years and I am doing very well thank you but I have seen plenty losing money and being disappointed and loosing their passion, WE want to prevent you from making a mistake and you in turn act like a teenager know it all.

You want to breed a pastel and be stuck with babies that will cost you on average $100 a year per animal knowing you will have about 6 to 12 of them and they retail for $25/$50, go for it and don't say you were not warned.

Or you could act like an adult listen to people that know the market, know what it takes foresee a big mistake ahead from someone that does not know a pastel from a normal to start with and yet is already jumping on the breeding bandwagon (I won't even ask how long you have been keeping BP)

For the past 12 years I have been seeing people like you every year and all of those that don't give a thought about the big picture end up being in the red (that's what happen when you don't make a profit or even break even) sell everything within 3 to 5 years some do worse than that also.

You got to learn to walk before you can run.

Breeding a pastel nowadays is no better than breeding a normal no one really wants them they have become the disposable animal.

So yeah keep asking for advice and dismiss them and act like you know it all......it won't be the first it won't be the last which is sad when people are actually willing to help you.....oh well.

[PitOnTheProwl]

Exactly it is a hobby not a business. And advice would have been your opinions on what would be a good pair not if i was going to breed her it would be with “nothing!”

And thats all you took out of that?
What is your reason for wanting to breed?
A good breeder wants to produce good looking animals.
A better breeder wants to produce quality animals.
A great breeder wants to produce stunning animals AND is prepared to house them for their life if needed.

[BPgirls]

I am only looking for recomendations because i am new to it and want to give it a try not lookong for anything crazy and yea i will be keep all of the clutch for my own collection.

[BPgirls]

And no i get what alot of you are saying that breeding to a pastel means i may get normals and not desirable morphs and people won’t want thsm, but that is not what i am looking for. I am interested in tryon to breed as i have mever breds bp’s before but have owned bp’s all my life strictly as pets nothing more. I have 2 other normal bp’s both are 3500 grams. But this was somethong i picked up at petsmart last year that caught my eye and was labeled fancy nothing more. I researched and seen it resembled a pastel and wanted to cofirm thats what it was. I get that its pretty much close to a normal and it seems as though if i want to breed it better to actually buy hogher end morphs to do so but i was only looking to for my own personal collection didnt want to go crazy my first time.

[PitOnTheProwl]

Breeding a pastel nowadays is no better than breeding a normal no one really wants them they have become the disposable animal.

Now to disagree..... A good looking Pastel would be a great addition to any genetic pool.
Her animal is not a breeder. Not saying it isnt pet quality but there is nothing there that would make a good addition to a project.
I still have my first normal females BUT I would never breed them because not only would it be a loss for me but the hatchlings as well.

[BPgirls]

That i understand, so basically if i really want some beautiful offspring its better to purchase say a banana and say another high colored morph and start with a project like that

[PitOnTheProwl]

And no i get what alot of you are saying that breeding to a pastel means i may get normals and not desirable morphs and people won’t want thsm, but that is not what i am looking for. I am interested in tryon to breed as i have mever breds bp’s before but have owned bp’s all my life strictly as pets nothing more. I have 2 other normal bp’s both are 3500 grams. But this was somethong i picked up at petsmart last year that caught my eye and was labeled fancy nothing more. I researched and seen it resembled a pastel and wanted to cofirm thats what it was. I get that its pretty much close to a normal and it seems as though if i want to breed it better to actually buy hogher end morphs to do so but i was only looking to for my own personal collection didnt want to go crazy my first time.

Who sexed it?
If you are lucky and actually have 3 females and think you really want to expand your collection.........Get a multi gene male like one of the two I mentioned and you could produce more variety by breaking down the males genetics. And as already said, they would all be Het Clown. I prefer using a visual recessive so that I know everything produced is 100% het.

[BPgirls]

They were popped by my vet all are females.

[PitOnTheProwl]

That i understand, so basically if i really want some beautiful offspring its better to purchase say a banana and say another high colored morph and start with a project like that

Not necessarily. You can start with a Pastel BUT it better be one great looking animal with minimal to now browning, have great blushing and color pop that will make you gaze for days.

[BPgirls]

I understand. I may have jumped the gun on attacking people back but just seemed it all came down to money money money, which i was not looking to make. Thats why i posted her picture to see if there would be a good match that may produce a brighter color i know a banana could produce high colored pastels but could also muddy the banana if produced.