Kalatoa 100% Pure SD Retic Progression (Pic heavy...)

[jmcrook]

Anything in the house capable of making a low-frequency vibration that might be bugging them

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Not that I know of. This behavior has persisted between two different states, two different cages, and three different residences now


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[67temp]

jmcrook, I know you have tried almost every possible thing but have you considered maybe it is a ventilation issue? These are animals that are very active and have a high metabolism which require more air than say a ball. Does she normally push where there might be airflow? If you catch her pushing how does she react when you open the door? Like will she just lay there for a few minutes with her head on the litter dam?

I know my little guy will be poking around the perimeter of the door where there is fresh air. If I open the door he will just lay there for a few minutes with his head up on the dam before he comes out exploring.

Maybe its a cycle. She gets fed and goes into a food coma for a few days. When she comes out of the food coma she gets active which depletes the concentration of O2 in the tank. That causes her to push at the door to try to get out. To stop the pushing she gets fed, and the cycle starts all over again.

[jmcrook]

jmcrook, I know you have tried almost every possible thing but have you considered maybe it is a ventilation issue? These are animals that are very active and have a high metabolism which require more air than say a ball. Does she normally push where there might be airflow? If you catch her pushing how does she react when you open the door? Like will she just lay there for a few minutes with her head on the litter dam?

I know my little guy will be poking around the perimeter of the door where there is fresh air. If I open the door he will just lay there for a few minutes with his head up on the dam before he comes out exploring.

Maybe its a cycle. She gets fed and goes into a food coma for a few days. When she comes out of the food coma she gets active which depletes the concentration of O2 in the tank. That causes her to push at the door to try to get out. To stop the pushing she gets fed, and the cycle starts all over again.

90% of the pushing is where the doors meet at the center brave of the cage (Animal Plastics T25). I run the fan in the room 24/7. If I open the door she’s out and about. Never just calmly rests at the litter dam. Out the door and straight up the cage stack. I’m really curious to see what would happen if she ate a 3lb rabbit. Working on finding a local supplier because I have no room in the freezer for a monster feeders order which is minimum 50lbs


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[Gio]

90% of the pushing is where the doors meet at the center brave of the cage (Animal Plastics T25). I run the fan in the room 24/7. If I open the door she’s out and about. Never just calmly rests at the litter dam. Out the door and straight up the cage stack. I’m really curious to see what would happen if she ate a 3lb rabbit. Working on finding a local supplier because I have no room in the freezer for a monster feeders order which is minimum 50lbs


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It’s insanity 🤬

And now the feeding is taking the SD part away a bit.

Try seeing if Cody would answer a PM and then see if you can call him.

[jmcrook]

I let her out to roam and she’s just been sitting on the top of the cage stack for an hour and a half or more. I may just let her have the whole room for the night so she doesn’t smash up her face...


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[RickyNY]

JM, I found an old thread on a UK forum with people suggesting:

-They pushing because they want to breed.
-Giving them a smaller hide so they fit snuggly
-And lastly a guy had to turn his viv on it's back so the glass was the roof and had to re-arrange the heat and lighting. And it made his retic stop pushing.

I don't know brother, is up to you to try this ones. Good luck!

[jmcrook]

JM, I found an old thread on a UK forum with people suggesting:

-They pushing because they want to breed.
-Giving them a smaller hide so they fit snuggly
-And lastly a guy had to turn his viv on it's back so the glass was the roof and had to re-arrange the heat and lighting. And it made his retic stop pushing.

I don't know brother, is up to you to try this ones. Good luck!

Yeah generally males will push when wanting to breed but some females will too.
Her hides are most definitely snug lol. She wears them like a hat. Kind of a Chris Farley fat guy in a little coat scenario.
It’s gotta be food, cage, or breeding related. Or all of the above. Part of me thinks there’s something about her cage environment that I can’t pinpoint. She was pushing all day, I let her out, and she calmly climbed to the top of the cages and then curled up and sat there for over two hours without moving. Was still there last I checked. I’m just letting her have the whole room tonight as it’s snake proof, she can’t get out or get into anything in there. Maybe she needs was cooler temps? Who knows, I’m at a loss here

[Stearns84]

Yeah generally males will push when wanting to breed but some females will too.
Her hides are most definitely snug lol. She wears them like a hat. Kind of a Chris Farley fat guy in a little coat scenario.
It’s gotta be food, cage, or breeding related. Or all of the above. Part of me thinks there’s something about her cage environment that I can’t pinpoint. She was pushing all day, I let her out, and she calmly climbed to the top of the cages and then curled up and sat there for over two hours without moving. Was still there last I checked. I’m just letting her have the whole room tonight as it’s snake proof, she can’t get out or get into anything in there. Maybe she needs was cooler temps? Who knows, I’m at a loss here

Keep us posted on the free roam all night and how it went.

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[Gio]

Man,,

I don’t think food. You would get other signs. When my dude is hungry he will measure me up and strike at the glass or need a lot of hook before I get him out.

There’s no way a SD should need that much food.

I think it stops the pushing but only because of the energy diverted to digestion.

That UK board suggestion may be good, but what a pain. Building your own cage would maybe help but again big pain.

Dude I feel bad for you.

[Skyrivers]

Is there anything in her enclosure she avoids? Try simplifying things and give her the basics for a while. Have you tried changing the color of the enclosure? I know they don't see the way we do. How did she do last night being out? Did she stay up high all night? She might feel safer higher up. Building an arboreal cage might help? One where she can climb 4 to 5 feet up and sit on a ledge high up? It seams she likes being high up.