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    A bumble bee would cost you $75 to $125 from a breeder, what do you get for that: A quality animal, that you know is well started and healthy, hatch date, lineage info etc and customer service.

    What do you get with an adoption from CL you get an animal that you have to pay for, you have no history, and the animal may or may not have been well cared for and could cost you hundreds more.

    Ultimately your choice, just know that sometimes the adoption fee is only the tip of the iceberg.
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    Re: Debating rescuing baby bp from Craigslist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    You mentioned the snake is 5 mos. old, but how long have they actually had her? Some illnesses are slow to show up, others are fairly quick.

    Pictures can hide the real body weight: a snake may have taken a deep breath when photo was taken, & actually be thin/underweight.

    Is the snake feeding? They might be having trouble getting the snake to eat. Ask (yourself?) why they want to sell a snake they've barely owned.

    Do read up on quarantine since you have others...it's a hassle & will be for quite some time if you do it right. You risk all your others if you don't.

    Assessing the health when you see/hold the snake: Eyes- no stuck eye-caps, clear & undamaged. Mouth-normal pink color, tongue tips not stuck together;
    Snake should not have to open mouth to breathe, should not see bubbling or hear whistling or crackling sounds. Body: no lumps, bumps, bite wounds,
    caved-in areas (can be broken ribs etc). Look CLOSELY for ticks & mites. Look at the cage they've kept snake in...is there adequate heat? If not, the snake
    may be on the verge of illness (it can be hard to tell). Is the cage clean? If there are feces, do they look normal? Look at the snake's vent: any "residue"?
    (should not be) Watch the snake move...you know what normal looks like, right? See if the snake can right itself when gently turned over. Look for any
    abnormal neurological signs...

    Their communications (lack thereof) would concern me too: consider that this snake may be stolen & they just want a quick sale, & couldn't care less. If that's
    the case, do you really want to pay them for what they did?

    IF you go see this snake & DON'T bring it home, DO remember to change your clothes (wash & disinfect them), & shower thoroughly before you get anywhere
    near your own snakes. Really. Be skeptical but as one who has rescued snakes, also be open to it...it can also turn out great. (how's that for ambiguity? LOL)
    Yeah I have been extremely skeptical and basically fell off the band wagon when I got an email back and they ignored many of my questions. Sometimes silence is enough of an answer unfortunately. And I'm not a rich kid who can adopt all the noodles and quarantine them all and get them all vet visits and save all the noodles. As much as my heart wants to.

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    Re: Debating rescuing baby bp from Craigslist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    A bumble bee would cost you $75 to $125 from a breeder, what do you get for that: A quality animal, that you know is well started and healthy, hatch date, lineage info etc and customer service.

    What do you get with an adoption from CL you get an animal that you have to pay for, you have no history, and the animal may or may not have been well cared for and could cost you hundreds more.

    Ultimately your choice, just know that sometimes the adoption fee is only the tip of the iceberg.
    Yeah I've decided after a few interactions with the person that I'm not going to. They have been vague and that alone is a huge red flag when I've asked a novel of questions which any quality snake-parent, even one rehoming their noodle, should be HAPPY someone is asking about. /: I have to accept that I can't adopt and save them all.

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    Re: Debating rescuing baby bp from Craigslist.

    Quote Originally Posted by littlemaxbigworld View Post
    Yeah I've decided after a few interactions with the person that I'm not going to. They have been vague and that alone is a huge red flag when I've asked a novel of questions which any quality snake-parent, even one rehoming their noodle, should be HAPPY someone is asking about. /: I have to accept that I can't adopt and save them all.

    We know just how you feel... So much temptation, & so hard to say no to a
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    Re: Debating rescuing baby bp from Craigslist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    We know just how you feel... So much temptation, & so hard to say no to a
    So difficult. It sucks. But I also have decided to see if I can volunteer at the zoo. A decade ago as a teen I worked in the reptile house with the education animals feeding and cleaning, and I'm reaching out to see if I can do that again. I think it'll help me lots with my need for all of the noodles.

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    That's a perfectly GREAT idea! I am a former zoo volunteer myself, though it wasn't even with reptiles. That was WAY back, before I got "bit" by "snake fever", lol.

    Anyway, if you can help with their reptiles, it's also a chance to learn more about quarantine & make all sorts of connections to others with similar interests. It's a
    great experience & who knows where it might lead? LOL

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    Re: Debating rescuing baby bp from Craigslist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    That's a perfectly GREAT idea! I am a former zoo volunteer myself, though it wasn't even with reptiles. That was WAY back, before I got "bit" by "snake fever", lol.

    Anyway, if you can help with their reptiles, it's also a chance to learn more about quarantine & make all sorts of connections to others with similar interests. It's a
    great experience & who knows where it might lead? LOL
    Haha if I had the means to feed into snake fever I would have a million. I keep joking that I need to be rich enough to rent the room across the hall in my house and make it my reptile room, and how if I had FOUR pythons then I could rotate handling them, one snake a day id always get my fix and never stress them out bahahah. One day!!

    And that's true too! So much to learn. I want them to email me back nooww. I need to know if I can do this haha I hope it wasn't a teenager-only type volunteer position!

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    Re: Debating rescuing baby bp from Craigslist.

    Quote Originally Posted by littlemaxbigworld View Post
    I only say rescuing because it’s pretty clear from the post that it’s husbandry is really sad. There’s so many depressing looking BPs and tanks in CL though I wish I could help them all. Ones in an empty tank with a wood arch hide and like one plant and a lamp. Who are probably stressed out of their minds. I wish I was rich and could save em all in the fantasy reptile room I wish I could afford hahah
    Petco also has incorrect husbandry for their snakes 99% of the time, but that does not make buying from Petco an animal rescue.
    I'm personally in a grey area if the animal is already sick/in clear distress on whether it's rescuing, even if someone buys them. Unfortunately many animals on craigslist are in not ideal conditions, but are fine upon selling, and you can't buy them all.
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    Well, if you believe you made the right decision than I believe you did too. Only you really know, though. I know how temptation works, trust me on that one. It's easy to want to jump on an opportunity to give an animal a good home, but we can't take them all in...

    I think you'll know when the right time is, and when the right snake comes along. It may be soon, it may not. You've only had your BP a little while, maybe you'll decide you want another BP, maybe it'll be something else, another species, who knows?

    Any which way, I think your gut will tell you when the time is right.

    Keep learning, you're off to a great start!!!

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