The $30k ball python morph is back!

[rufretic]

Primarily because there is virtually no new money coming for "high end" BP morphs. It's a dead market. Look at this site. 99.9% people have a few pet ball pythons. No one is spending thousands anymore.



I'm saying that all the major breeders know and depend on each other. Pricing brand new morphs at anything below ludicrous price is a good way to get ostracized from the group since the perception is that having $30k+ price tags on new stuff somehow elevates the rest of the market strictly from a marketing standpoint. It's not because anyone is actually paying those prices.




This is believable. A few years back, a name brand BP breeder told me his actual cash revenue was "only" about $55k that year, almost all from hets because that's all people could afford. All the high end stuff sat unsold or was traded between other breeders, often multiple times.




Yes people USED to do that, but almost all of them lost money and aren't around anymore. People are smarter now and realize it's very difficult to make money in the middle of the market because it's so small. Big breeders aren't buying from little guys (they mostly trade with each other) and the pet crowd doesn't want to spend more than $200.




Agree to disagree. I hear whispers of it happening on very rare occasions. I have heard of a few monster $50k orders coming in from Europe since the market there is still less mature, but that's rare and almost no big US deals seem to be happening. If those deals were still going down, I feel like we'd be hearing about them and the mid-tier breeders wouldn't have crashed so hard.

When your talking about $30-$50k sales I can agree, not many are investing that kind of money. But when you talk about nobody spending thousands and only want $200 snakes, that just isn't true. I've personally witnessed dozens of $1000 plus sales happen in the past year or two. Have you not been to the big shows? Every time I go I see a few sales like that and that's just what I've witnessed personally so I'm sure there must be a lot of them happening.