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Re: I think I need help (Regurgitation)
 Originally Posted by Caali
It was immediately after he ate it.
so it didn't smell like death? good news: that's not a regurge! just a snake deciding not to eat their prey; bad news!: we still gotta figure out why.
was the snake spooked somehow?
honestly, to me, those feeders sound nasty. i wouldn't eat them either from the way you described them. any chance you can offer from a new stock?
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Re: I think I need help (Regurgitation)
 Originally Posted by tttaylorrr
so it didn't smell like death? good news: that's not a regurge! just a snake deciding not to eat their prey; bad news!: we still gotta figure out why.
was the snake spooked somehow?
honestly, to me, those feeders sound nasty. i wouldn't eat them either from the way you described them. any chance you can offer from a new stock?
Why isn't that a regurge? I'm actually really happy that it isn't.
I've heard that it was supposed to smell but to be honest the smell was worse before than afterwards. The feeder was just a bit longer than before and also slimy and bloody but it didn't smell like anything. At least not that much that the smell struck me when I took it out of the enclosure and into a little box but I have to add that I can't smell that well anyway (I have hayfever at the moment and I can only smell very strong scents).
I don't have a new stock at home at the moment but a big pet store (the one I've been buying my feeders at since I've had my snake) is just 20 minutes away (by bike) from my home, so I could buy new feeders today. Do you think I should offer again?
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Re: I think I need help (Regurgitation)
Sounds like he vomited. And it does also sound like it could be bad feeders. I would still treat it like a full regurge, especially since you said there was blood present? Was it alot?
Either way, wait 2 weeks before offering again. He'll be perfectly fine. 30 grams of weight loss is nothing for a bp. He could probably poop almost as much!
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Re: I think I need help (Regurgitation)
 Originally Posted by Team Slytherin
Sounds like he vomited. And it does also sound like it could be bad feeders. I would still treat it like a full regurge, especially since you said there was blood present? Was it alot?
Either way, wait 2 weeks before offering again. He'll be perfectly fine. 30 grams of weight loss is nothing for a bp. He could probably poop almost as much!
Thanks for the help!
It wasn't a lot of blood and I'm pretty sure it was the rat's. Ok, I'll make him wait for the next week for two weeks. Just to make sure that he stays healthy.
 Originally Posted by craigafrechette
craigafrechetteYeah, that's not a regurge. A regurge woukd be partially digested and even with hay fever you'd smell it.
Based on the info at hand. I would say the feeders are bad. And honestly, I'd be reluctant to buy from that source again. Unless of course they were stored improperly once you got them?
Do you have another prey source??
I'd also wait 2 weeks to offer again. Your snake is at a weight that can easily handle a few weeks without...
BUT...you mentioned the snake is already losing weight??? Why is that???
Thank you for the information.
I researching other places to buy feeders from. I'm sure there are some.
Well, maybe one of my roommates might have left the freezer open and didn't tell me? I don't have another explanation 
The weight loss is probably not that bad. The first time I weighed him was three days after a big meal (he hadn't pooped in a while as well) and then the second time was after he had a big poop. I timed it very badly. That's probably the reason for the weight loss.
 Originally Posted by Neal
Others have touched base on the regurging so I want to touch base on your thawing process and feeder source.
When you thaw out, the water you said is 140, is that boiled water, or is that just your sink water turned on hot? If it's boiled, I wouldn't do that, if it's regular sink water, I would still try to back off a bit. That's just my personal opinion though.
Where do you get your feeders from? Honestly if you have stuff falling apart that sounds like bad feeders. I would highly suggest you find another source to get your feeders from and I'll gladly help you find a better place which will save you money.
I have a friend who lives in Germany so I can ask her where she gets her stuff from.
Thanks for the tipp.
I'll definitely will not use water as hot as that anymore.
To the feeding source: I have a "Fressnapf" near my home. They have different supplier brands and feeder sizes which gives me lots of room to choose from. Personally I really love the brand called Petmad but it's hard to get the feeders from them since they're not always available.
If it's okay, I'd still like to take you up upon that offer with your friend in Germany. My friends don't really like or care about snakes which is why no one around me has an idea where to buy from. I'd love to hear from someone else where they get their feeders from.
Male Ball Python (Bumblebee het 100% Clown) - Friedrich
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Re: I think I need help (Regurgitation)
 Originally Posted by Caali
Thank you for the information.
I researching other places to buy feeders from. I'm sure there are some.
Well, maybe one of my roommates might have left the freezer open and didn't tell me? I don't have another explanation 
The weight loss is probably not that bad. The first time I weighed him was three days after a big meal (he hadn't pooped in a while as well) and then the second time was after he had a big poop. I timed it very badly. That's probably the reason for the weight loss.
Ok cool. Then the snake is actually losing weight. That's good.
I would try to find another source for feeders and offer in two weeks.
Assuming all goes well from there then you can just chalk it up to bad feeders.
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Re: I think I need help (Regurgitation)
 Originally Posted by Caali
Thanks for the help!
It wasn't a lot of blood and I'm pretty sure it was the rat's. Ok, I'll make him wait for the next week for two weeks. Just to make sure that he stays healthy.
Thank you for the information.
I researching other places to buy feeders from. I'm sure there are some.
Well, maybe one of my roommates might have left the freezer open and didn't tell me? I don't have another explanation 
The weight loss is probably not that bad. The first time I weighed him was three days after a big meal (he hadn't pooped in a while as well) and then the second time was after he had a big poop. I timed it very badly. That's probably the reason for the weight loss.
Thanks for the tipp.
I'll definitely will not use water as hot as that anymore.
To the feeding source: I have a "Fressnapf" near my home. They have different supplier brands and feeder sizes which gives me lots of room to choose from. Personally I really love the brand called Petmad but it's hard to get the feeders from them since they're not always available.
If it's okay, I'd still like to take you up upon that offer with your friend in Germany. My friends don't really like or care about snakes which is why no one around me has an idea where to buy from. I'd love to hear from someone else where they get their feeders from.
Yea, I just think that 140 is a bit hot. I have one of the knock off yeti cups that keep stuff hot/cold and I put the rats in a ziploc bag in there with hot tap water, my water is usually 110ish if I had to guess, I know it's not 140. She said she gets hers from tropic-shop, her and a few of her friends place a big order normally.
I'm not sure which part of Germany you're from but if you need snake friends I'm sure my friend Sarah would love to help you more being she may be closer to you and able to recommend stuff being you're in the same geographic location. I know she's from somewhere in Westfalia or NRW.
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Re: I think I need help (Regurgitation)
 Originally Posted by Neal
Yea, I just think that 140 is a bit hot. I have one of the knock off yeti cups that keep stuff hot/cold and I put the rats in a ziploc bag in there with hot tap water, my water is usually 110ish if I had to guess, I know it's not 140. She said she gets hers from tropic-shop, her and a few of her friends place a big order normally.
I'm not sure which part of Germany you're from but if you need snake friends I'm sure my friend Sarah would love to help you more being she may be closer to you and able to recommend stuff being you're in the same geographic location. I know she's from somewhere in Westfalia or NRW.
I'm from NRW (Westfalia is also in NRW) as well. I live in what we call the Rhineland.
Thanks for the tip. Maybe I'll try ordering online
Male Ball Python (Bumblebee het 100% Clown) - Friedrich
Female Cat (unknown heritage, was an orphaned kitten) - Shirley
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Re: I think I need help (Regurgitation)
 Originally Posted by Caali
I'm from NRW (Westfalia is also in NRW) as well. I live in what we call the Rhineland.
Thanks for the tip. Maybe I'll try ordering online 
I told her where you got your food from and she said: "Ahhh No". The food from fressnapf is from Petman and they had really really bad frozen.
I'm going to send you a message.
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