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Re: BCS Sabogae 1.1 size/color progression
Very nice,you don’t see many bcs about, nice. To see some on here ,I love there reduced pattern markings.
do they change colour a lot, my fire bellied corn islands do that almost kaki green to grey colour, looks so cool especially against there tail colour
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Re: BCS Sabogae 1.1 size/color progression
 Originally Posted by richardhind1972
Very nice,you don’t see many bcs about, nice. To see some on here ,I love there reduced pattern markings.
do they change colour a lot, my fire bellied corn islands do that almost kaki green to grey colour, looks so cool especially against there tail colour
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Thank you! They do not have an extreme light and dark phase like many other locales. Sometimes my male looks darker in real life than he does tonight in those photos, but no real color change beyond a shade or two. They do however, lighten greatly as they get older. Mine just look better and better every time I look at them. Another thing I’ve noticed about mine is that they really seem to enjoy burrowing in the bedding.
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Stunning ... how are they to handle ?
have they grown up together or separately ?
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Re: BCS Sabogae 1.1 size/color progression
 Originally Posted by Phillydubs
Stunning ... how are they to handle ?
have they grown up together or separately ?
They are a bit flighty but not defensive at all. They have a great feeding response but have never struck at anyone outside of their enclosures. They just aren’t a lazy lap snake. They are very active when being handled.
No they are not housed together. I try to take photos of them together to show the subtle differences between them but they definitely have their own enclosures.
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Re: BCS Sabogae 1.1 size/color progression
 Originally Posted by Foschi Exotic Serpents
They are a bit flighty but not defensive at all. They have a great feeding response but have never struck at anyone outside of their enclosures. They just aren’t a lazy lap snake. They are very active when being handled.
No they are not housed together. I try to take photos of them together to show the subtle differences between them but they definitely have their own enclosures.
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How big do you expect them to max out at?
ive loved the dwarf boas and island boas for a long time now. Was recently offered a chance to grab one and don’t think I can say no.
Yours are just awesome.
What size and when will you try to breed them ?
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Beautiful, and great heritage coming from Russo. It’s good having more diversity with Boas (BCS) show up here.
Last edited by Reinz; 04-11-2018 at 10:48 AM.
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The one thing I found that you can count on about Balls is that they are consistent about their inconsistentcy.
1.2 Coastal Carpet Pythons
Mack The Knife, 2013
Lizzy, 2010
Etta, 2013
1.1 Jungle Carpet Pythons
Esmarelda , 2014
Sundance, 2012
2.0 Common BI Boas, Punch, 2005; Butch, age?
0.1 Normal Ball Python, Elvira, 2001
0.1 Olive (Aussie) Python, Olivia, 2017
Please excuse the spelling in my posts. Auto-Correct is my worst enema.
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Re: BCS Sabogae 1.1 size/color progression
 Originally Posted by Phillydubs
How big do you expect them to max out at?
ive loved the dwarf boas and island boas for a long time now. Was recently offered a chance to grab one and don’t think I can say no.
Yours are just awesome.
What size and when will you try to breed them ?
There is a bit of long story concerning the BCS and the fact that many which were brought into the states when they could still be exported from the islands were not actually pure. Vin wrote a great article about this that was published in a reptile magazine awhile ago. If you study the Pearl Islands chain and compare distance between the islands themselves, and the mainland, the BCS were able to swim from island to island and to the mainland to mix with BCI. Over hundreds of years this produced a lot of variation in the BCS from most of the islands. The island of Saboga however, is far enough away from any other land mass that the chances of this happening were very slim. Therefore, only the BCS that were positively known to have been collected from that island were known to be pure. There are not supposed to be any BCI on Saboga.
The size they can achieve depends on their source because of this. The pure BCS stay very small and slender. Females should max out between 4-5 ft. I’ve seen “Pearl Islands” boas that were a bit bigger but they also did not look pure and were likely mixed with BCI somewhere along the lines. Just by looking at them you can see they look different from BCI. Not just the color and pattern, but the long, slender, pointy head. Lack of eye stripes and head T. Just subtle things like that.
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Re: BCS Sabogae 1.1 size/color progression
 Originally Posted by Reinz
Beautiful, and great heritage coming from Russo. It’s good having more diversity with Boas (BCS) show up here. 
Absolutely. I researched this subspecies for many years before I was able to get my pair. I would not have gotten them from anyone else other than Vin because I know he knows where they came from. I have the CITES paperwork from their grandparents. This is definitely a boa that I believe should be kept pure because they are quite rare. Imagine how easy it would be for BCS to go extinct in the wild.
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Re: BCS Sabogae 1.1 size/color progression
 Originally Posted by Phillydubs
How big do you expect them to max out at?
ive loved the dwarf boas and island boas for a long time now. Was recently offered a chance to grab one and don’t think I can say no.
Yours are just awesome.
What size and when will you try to breed them ?
I’m sorry I forgot to answer one of your questions! These guys should be able to breed the 3rd or 4th year. They have very small litters of large babies. They average only around 5-8 babies (give or take) that are born larger than you’d expect from such small parents. This is because food is scarce on the islands and they must be born large enough to be able to eat whatever they can to survive.
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