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    Ever think of a grow tent? They are being used more and more for large lizards like tegus and monitors all the time. If you don't want to give up a room you cna setup a 8x10 or 10x10 and have racks for ledges and a kiddy pool for soaking along with light and heat.

    They a e insanely durable and are something you can break down and store easily if you need the room back.
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    Re: Drinking fountain for Rainbow my Reticulated Python?

    Quote Originally Posted by SDA View Post
    Ever think of a grow tent? They are being used more and more for large lizards like tegus and monitors all the time. If you don't want to give up a room you cna setup a 8x10 or 10x10 and have racks for ledges and a kiddy pool for soaking along with light and heat.

    They a e insanely durable and are something you can break down and store easily if you need the room back.
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    The only stupid question is the one not asked. If you have a question, ask it.

    As for the waterfall. It's a bad idea for a retic. Since this is your first retic, my advice is keep everything simple. Retics are nosey by nature and will find a way to break or get stuck in something if they can lol.

    My experience is dont use silk vines that have any kind of loop in them. Caesar got stuck in a loop when he was a baby and i had to cut the loop off him which was really stuck to him as he kept trying to squeeze into it to get out.

    If you want to fancy up the cage, thats fine. Just use stuff like silk vines with no loops, some driftwood or Mopani or Manzanita wood.

    After you have had your retic for awhile, you will learn its personality. Then you can decide what to do. Like Caesar is a trouble maker. Flat out. If he can find a way to break, get stuck in or poop on something, he generally will. I have learned this so i gotta give him stuff that he cant do any of the three things too, or at least the first two.

    Anyways, waterfall is a bad idea.
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    Re: Drinking fountain for Rainbow my Reticulated Python?

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    Ever think of a grow tent? They are being used more and more for large lizards like tegus and monitors all the time. If you don't want to give up a room you cna setup a 8x10 or 10x10 and have racks for ledges and a kiddy pool for soaking along with light and heat.

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    Not sure i would use something like that for a full sized mainland retic. They are extremely strong and determined. And a full sized mainland female is going to be heavy.

    Also curious as to where you saw monitors being used in these things. Monitors dig A LOT. Monitor enclosures need like 4 feet deep of dirt if done right a long with basking areas of up to 110-120F. Now this is for the stuff i had like Nile Monitors and Savannah Monitors. If you are talking small stuff like Ackies, that is a different story. But a full size large monitor like a Nile, Roughneck, Crocodile etc would easily tear through it or wreck it. My nile broke a sheet rock wall with his tail when he took a shot at a friend of mine which he hated for some reason. And he was about 4-5 feet.

    But anyways, for a retic, i would want something very strong. I have had Caesar push plastic locks open on tubs just from pushing so hard they literally popped off. I have also had Caesar slide open an AP cage door but Dottie and Rosey both have done that too lol.

    Plus in a fabric/flexible cage like that, if the snake struck and missed and somehow got a tooth stuck on the stuff, it would either rip the tooth out or rip the cage wall open.

    Stick to a solid wall cage like PVC or plywood for something as strong and large as a retic. Especially since this is your first retic. You need to first learn how smart, strong and determined they can be. Plus i dont think you really grasp the concept of the size and mass of a large female mainland. Even Caesar at only 8-9 feet is a handful for me when he decides he wants to go somewhere. And he is a very laid retic with a weird personality of liking attention and petting. i couldnt imagine a not so happy go lucky personality 18 foot retic lol.
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    Sauzo, they put them on their side, fill them partially with dirt and use them. Works until a permanent enclosure can be built for an juvenile. Nobody in their right mind would use a grow tent for say a full size croc monitor or black throat and anyone that can afford to keep those can afford a full size permanent enclosure. These however are used as temp housing and quarantine rooms for young ones.

    I am also not talking keeping a snake in there to live, this would be an enrichment play room so it doesn't escape. I guess I didn't make that clear.

    Seriously if you can't build or buy a proper enclosure for a large reptile, you aren't ready for one. Main reason I don't keep them. I don't have the time and patience. Not sure what you thought I was assuming but I'm not stupid enough to suggest this as an enclosure.

    As for a link, google grow tents. Growace is one site. Check your state for laws on hydroponic equipment. Some states are a little archaic.
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    I totally thought you were suggesting using it as a perm. enclosure as well. Glad you clarified as I agree, not a good idea for caging a large snake.
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    I too thought you meant as a permanent home lol. For quarantine i guess but to me that seems kind of large for a quarantine. Imagine having to treat that size cage for mites lol.

    For me, both my monitors were babies when i got them. My Nile was pretty much a hatchling and my Savannah was only about 6-8 inches long. So i didnt need a huge cage for them.

    And yeah, you could use it for enrichment area but assuming you are getting something like 8 or 10 feet long, that really should be the size of the normal cage for a mainland anyways. So to me, would seem pointless. I would just give them the room of a spare room as long as its made reticproof lol. I know a lot of people say 6 feet is big enough of a cage for a mainland......i disagree but that is another argument lol.

    And i agree in that if you cant provide the proper caging and needs for a large reptile, then stick to smaller stuff. Heck I'm trying to figure where to put in an AP T65 8x3 cage in the 'mancave/snake room' just in case Caesar doesnt stop growing lol.
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    They make all sorts of sizes from a 2 foot by 2 foot footprint to 10x20 feet so people use them for all different reptiles now for quick setups, The great thing about them is they are water tight on the bottom and sides so you cna have something that likes to splash around without worrying about ruining the hard wood floors and drywall. Plus you can break it down fast and store it in a closet when you want the room back
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    So with this fountains (I have one) they need to be cleaned every 10-15 days. Like full clean, meaning pull out the pump, dismantle it and clean or they get scummy very quickly. I would not recommend with snakes. Now a turtle fountain with huge filter, maybe.
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    I'd definitely avoid fountains like those for snakes. I can already see it being more work than it's worth. Between it tipping and being soiled with poop/urates and substrate I'm guessing it would require pretty much daily cleaning to function properly. I also wouldn't want anything with any mechanical parts inside my enclosures, just to be safe.

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