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Re: RBI Hide Boxes VS Vivarium Electronics?
 Originally Posted by MD_Pythons
Well crap. I just ordered some RBI hides, after seeing this I have some concerns about the quality but I'll update you guys on them when they get here.
See my recent post. Mine are Fakes being sold as RBI.
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Re: RBI Hide Boxes VS Vivarium Electronics?
 Originally Posted by zina10
This is how my old ones look. They are over 10 years old. No warping. Well made and sturdy and far more attractive then those cheap looking slick ones I've gotten recently... 
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Would like to see these again as a Option. Maybe more expensive but worth the money!
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Re: RBI Hide Boxes VS Vivarium Electronics?
Ummmm.....not saying I'm the guy to do it but LLL could be in some serious trouble if word gets out that they were misleading people based on RBI hides (I know I've purchased a couple over the years).
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Re: RBI Hide Boxes VS Vivarium Electronics?
 Originally Posted by KevinK
Ummmm.....not saying I'm the guy to do it but LLL could be in some serious trouble if word gets out that they were misleading people based on RBI hides (I know I've purchased a couple over the years).
The LLL hides sold as RBI smell terrible. I put one in my girls enclosure for the night and just opened the door and the whole enclosure stinks like a chemical!! Not happy. Waiting for Pacific time to call. I want my money & shipping cost back.
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I would still like to find out about the one's from "Pets Crafts". They look the most like my old hides, actually even a bit better finished.
I just prefer the textured look, doesn't look so "plastic-y"
So LLL is selling those crappy hides as RBI ? wow..
There are a LOT of hides that have the same general look, just look on ebay. And yes, Chinese manufacturers make products for "re-labeling". Same product sold under different names. Quite common actually, happens with all kinds of products. You can buy the same exact product for a lot more money because of the "name" on it..
I have NO idea who my old hides were made by, but I wish I could still find them. Sturdy and attractive and held up forever already, without showing any wear on them.
Tried to check out on Pets Crafts, but yes, their cart doesn't work. To bad, those hides look awesome !!
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Re: RBI Hide Boxes VS Vivarium Electronics?
 Originally Posted by zina10
I would still like to find out about the one's from "Pets Crafts". They look the most like my old hides, actually even a bit better finished.
I just prefer the textured look, doesn't look so "plastic-y"
So LLL is selling those crappy hides as RBI ? wow..
There are a LOT of hides that have the same general look, just look on ebay. And yes, Chinese manufacturers make products for "re-labeling". Same product sold under different names. Quite common actually, happens with all kinds of products. You can buy the same exact product for a lot more money because of the "name" on it..
I have NO idea who my old hides were made by, but I wish I could still find them. Sturdy and attractive and held up forever already, without showing any wear on them.
Tried to check out on Pets Crafts, but yes, their cart doesn't work. To bad, those hides look awesome !!
I emailed them this morning to see what they say. Bobby at RBI new of Petcraft.. I dont know who made the Junk I got from LLL labeled as RBI but Ive never bought anything from them and only did because RBI was out last month.. I'll wait from now on.
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I hate their website. I can’t get pricing on ANYTHING on my iPad without signing up first. Which means MORE daily emails to my already 200 + I receive each day. 
They just lost a potential impulse customer before they had him.
Last edited by Reinz; 03-06-2018 at 11:45 AM.
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The one thing I found that you can count on about Balls is that they are consistent about their inconsistentcy.
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Mack The Knife, 2013
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Etta, 2013
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Sundance, 2012
2.0 Common BI Boas, Punch, 2005; Butch, age?
0.1 Normal Ball Python, Elvira, 2001
0.1 Olive (Aussie) Python, Olivia, 2017
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I think they only sell wholesale...(Petscraft)
Have to find out if they sell to anyone in the US, and then try to buy from them 
They seem to have nice products (also have a facebook page) But definitely wholesale only. Not sure if they have a customer in the US yet ?
They only started selling the hides in the Fall of 2017, so may not have a US customer yet, esp. since most people just buy the cheap ones off of ebay..
I can't tell if they are as textured as my old ones, but they don't appear as shiny as RBI and the cheap knock offs..
Last edited by zina10; 03-06-2018 at 11:51 AM.
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Re: RBI Hide Boxes VS Vivarium Electronics?
 Originally Posted by zina10
I think they only sell wholesale...(Petscraft)
Have to find out if they sell to anyone in the US, and then try to buy from them
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Ok, that makes sense, but they are still losing business. Many wholesale sites post the retail price and then a list of dealers.
The one thing I found that you can count on about Balls is that they are consistent about their inconsistentcy.
1.2 Coastal Carpet Pythons
Mack The Knife, 2013
Lizzy, 2010
Etta, 2013
1.1 Jungle Carpet Pythons
Esmarelda , 2014
Sundance, 2012
2.0 Common BI Boas, Punch, 2005; Butch, age?
0.1 Normal Ball Python, Elvira, 2001
0.1 Olive (Aussie) Python, Olivia, 2017
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Re: RBI Hide Boxes VS Vivarium Electronics?
If the Petscraft minimum isn’t stupid, I have a business license/sales tax ID. I’ll take a look at their website a little later.
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