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    Feeding help and what I have tried so far???

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    I don't think I missed anything. Temp and humidity is spot on and regulated thanks to a new temp and humidity regulator I purchased and put in place Thursday last week. He is in a room that is dark except when his heat lamp comes on to heat him up. Neo is very active around 5 PM every day it seams. I cleaned his tank out Saturday. He had pooped twice in it and was time. I have noticed him looking out his hide more after he warmed up instead of staying balled up hiding his head. I think he has a proper environment now. Both his hides are identical and snug now. He goes between them from time to time. I have not offered him food for 4 days now. Have I missed anything?

    When he is roaming around he is looking up at the lid trying to figure a way out of his tank. I do have a locking lid.
    They do like to come out and look for ways to escape.. Mine come out every night between 7pm and 10pm and stay out until 2am-5am. During this time they climb, lay out and bask and also push sometimes at the sliding doors (trying to get out i suppose).
    The reason I said yours might be signs of stress is because it was during the day.. However if its a dark room he might not know what time it is. There have been times when i covered my enclosures for days for one reason or another (kids sleep overs ect) and ive found them out and about mid Noon because I think they didn't know what time it was. It could be possible your snake is starting to settle and was just exploring like mine do 5 days a week. Mine sleep for 2 days after feeding. Its good you haven't offered food in four days if I were you I'd stick to a full 7 before trying. It can up your chances of success instead of having a repeated problem of refusal. Good job getting things dialed in . Any Pics?
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    Re: Feeding help and what I have tried so far???

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    They do like to come out and look for ways to escape.. Mine come out every night between 7pm and 10pm and stay out until 2am-5am. During this time they climb, lay out and bask and also push sometimes at the sliding doors (trying to get out i suppose).
    The reason I said yours might be signs of stress is because it was during the day.. However if its a dark room he might not know what time it is. There have been times when i covered my enclosures for days for one reason or another (kids sleep overs ect) and ive found them out and about mid Noon because I think they didn't know what time it was. It could be possible your snake is starting to settle and was just exploring like mine do 5 days a week. Mine sleep for 2 days after feeding. Its good you haven't offered food in four days if I were you I'd stick to a full 7 before trying. It can up your chances of success instead of having a repeated problem of refusal. Good job getting things dialed in . Any Pics?
    I don't want to handle him just yet. Next time he is out I will grab a quick pic and not use the flash. Shiva has already eaten and settled in her new home quickly. Hope Neo does the same soon. I will offer food again Wednesday. The question is, what to offer now. Normal white rat? ASF? Mouse? He was eating live according to the per store I purchased him at and was eating white rats.

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    Re: Feeding help and what I have tried so far???

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    I don't want to handle him just yet. Next time he is out I will grab a quick pic and not use the flash. Shiva has already eaten and settled in her new home quickly. Hope Neo does the same soon. I will offer food again Wednesday. The question is, what to offer now. Normal white rat? ASF? Mouse? He was eating live according to the per store I purchased him at and was eating white rats.
    offer exactly what he was eating before.

    just for some peace of mind: older snakes take longer to adjust to a new setting; your other snake is younger and youngin's can adjust very quickly. your situation is 100% normal and almost expected.

    you're doing fine. patience.
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    Re: Feeding help and what I have tried so far???

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    offer exactly what he was eating before.

    just for some peace of mind: older snakes take longer to adjust to a new setting; your other snake is younger and youngin's can adjust very quickly. your situation is 100% normal and almost expected.

    you're doing fine. patience.
    He has pooped twice in the 5 weeks I have had him and still looks healthy. 585g when I weighed him last week. I live in south Texas and things have warmed up outside a lot going from 20 something to 70 something this weekend. Hope it is just a seasonal thing.

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    Re: Feeding help and what I have tried so far???

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    I don't want to handle him just yet. Next time he is out I will grab a quick pic and not use the flash. Shiva has already eaten and settled in her new home quickly. Hope Neo does the same soon. I will offer food again Wednesday. The question is, what to offer now. Normal white rat? ASF? Mouse? He was eating live according to the per store I purchased him at and was eating white rats.
    Yeah good don't handle him yet, good idea. This pet store snake just might end up being a PITB to feed. I had that problem from a Mom & Pop Shop and never bought another snake like that again. I've had Great eaters and temperaments from real breeders and I always here the same stories about pet stores and its 99% bad.
    I cant remember his size. Im sure it was in this post somewhere. Id go with a proper size mouse to try and get him feeding but if they say he ate rats then you can stick with that. Maybe grab one of each to try.. If he was on Rats make sure not to get one that is to big.. Balls shy away easy if prey is running around spastic or aggressive in any way. Its easy to come home and realize a young rat is still much bigger than you expected after you put it in the enclosure. Cant go wrong with mice as far as size for a Ball Python..
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    Re: Feeding help and what I have tried so far???

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    yeah good don't handle him yet, good idea. This pet store snake just might end up being a pitb to feed. I had that problem from a mom & pop shop and never bought another snake like that again. I've had great eaters and temperaments from real breeders and i always here the same stories about pet stores and its 99% bad.
    I cant remember his size. Im sure it was in this post somewhere. Id go with a proper size mouse to try and get him feeding but if they say he ate rats then you can stick with that. Maybe grab one of each to try.. If he was on rats make sure not to get one that is to big.. Balls shy away easy if prey is running around spastic or aggressive in any way. Its easy to come home and realize a young rat is still much bigger than you expected after you put it in the enclosure. Cant go wrong with mice as far as size for a ball python..
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    Re: Feeding help and what I have tried so far???

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    pitb?
    pain in the butt
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    Re: Feeding help and what I have tried so far???

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    pain in the butt
    With him being 9 months oldish, he will adjust eventually right? Shiva doesn't mind being handled at all and she is 3 months old. I want Neo to eventually be ok with the handling process but don't want to rush it.

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    Re: Feeding help and what I have tried so far???

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    With him being 9 months oldish, he will adjust eventually right? Shiva doesn't mind being handled at all and she is 3 months old. I want Neo to eventually be ok with the handling process but don't want to rush it.
    yes, he will. you guys have the next 20+ years to get comfortable with one another; no need to rush.
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    Re: Feeding help and what I have tried so far???

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    With him being 9 months oldish, he will adjust eventually right? Shiva doesn't mind being handled at all and she is 3 months old. I want Neo to eventually be ok with the handling process but don't want to rush it.
    Hopefully he will. But thats why i mentioned Pet Store reptiles not being so good. I know people that have this problem for years. So much so I see people get rid of them because its no longer enjoyable to play these games every month with a PITB snake (myself included) . Some snakes i think aren't bred from good genetics & just never become as domesticated (if you can even use that term with snakes) as breeders that only breed their best. To this day i cant believe the amount of nasty Ball Pythons and Burms now days. 20 years ago there wasnt a nasty Ball or Burm that i ever met.. Now they are striking out of the eggs. The funniest is the Retics. 20 years ago they couldn't be handled like a Burm could and today they are starting to be as docile as a puppy. (Mainland I'm talking about not these Dwarfs hybrids).
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