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    Western coachwhip, aka red racer, aka the devil reincarnate. The only snake I have ever witnesses chase a human being. One would have better luck kissing a wild honey badger than holding a coachwhip and not getting bitten.
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    Re: Which Snake Species Should I Not Get Next?

    Quote Originally Posted by enginee837 View Post
    Western coachwhip, aka red racer, aka the devil reincarnate. The only snake I have ever witnesses chase a human being. One would have better luck kissing a wild honey badger than holding a coachwhip and not getting bitten.
    Sure you didn't witness the snake and human being simply fleeing in the same direction?

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    Re: Which Snake Species Should I Not Get Next?

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    Sure you didn't witness the snake and human being simply fleeing in the same direction?
    I am positive karma the snake was trying to bite him in the process.
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    Re: Which Snake Species Should I Not Get Next?

    Quote Originally Posted by enginee837 View Post
    I am positive karma the snake was trying to bite him in the process.
    Gotta love speak to text. Anyhow, I grew up on a pseudo farm in the desert of Phoenix Az. We had rattlesnakes of all kinds, bull snakes, king snakes, knight snakes etc. We used to use red racers to snake train our dogs. After 5 min with a red racer they would have enough bites on their nose that they would never mess with any snake let alone a rattlesnake ever again.
    The instance I was referring to happened at work. We got a call for a snake removal. Snake was located in the garage of a residence. As usual it was reported as a rattlesnake. On arrival I saw the reddish gray tail sticking out from behind some boxes so I knew what it was.
    The garage was pretty cool so I knew it would be more docile than usual and I did not want to chance harming it with the snake pole our firefighter had so I chose to tail it and put it in the bucket. I got it out of where it was and in the bucket rather uneventfully while everyone looked on in horror as I used my hands to pick up what they though was a venomous reptile. At this point we loaded it up in the engine and drove it across the street and out into the desert.
    I knew after having some time to warm up it would be rather feisty so I instructed my firefighter to walk no less than 50 feet out, unscrew the bucket and kick it over facing away from him. Well he must have thought I was joking because he walked about 5 feet from the truck unscrewed the lid and dropped it at his feet. The rather large pissed off snake turned around and struck at him. He proceeded to let out a squeal that would have made a 3rd grade girl proud as he ran back to the truck. In typical coachwhip fashion it followed him in a periscoping Sprint biting at his heels. He got in the truck and closed the door just in time so it proceeded up into the undercarriage of the engine trying to get to him.
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    Re: Which Snake Species Should I Not Get Next?

    Quote Originally Posted by enginee837 View Post
    Gotta love speak to text. Anyhow, I grew up on a pseudo farm in the desert of Phoenix Az. We had rattlesnakes of all kinds, bull snakes, king snakes, knight snakes etc. We used to use red racers to snake train our dogs. After 5 min with a red racer they would have enough bites on their nose that they would never mess with any snake let alone a rattlesnake ever again.
    The instance I was referring to happened at work. We got a call for a snake removal. Snake was located in the garage of a residence. As usual it was reported as a rattlesnake. On arrival I saw the reddish gray tail sticking out from behind some boxes so I knew what it was.
    The garage was pretty cool so I knew it would be more docile than usual and I did not want to chance harming it with the snake pole our firefighter had so I chose to tail it and put it in the bucket. I got it out of where it was and in the bucket rather uneventfully while everyone looked on in horror as I used my hands to pick up what they though was a venomous reptile. At this point we loaded it up in the engine and drove it across the street and out into the desert.
    I knew after having some time to warm up it would be rather feisty so I instructed my firefighter to walk no less than 50 feet out, unscrew the bucket and kick it over facing away from him. Well he must have thought I was joking because he walked about 5 feet from the truck unscrewed the lid and dropped it at his feet. The rather large pissed off snake turned around and struck at him. He proceeded to let out a squeal that would have made a 3rd grade girl proud as he ran back to the truck. In typical coachwhip fashion it followed him in a periscoping Sprint biting at his heels. He got in the truck and closed the door just in time so it proceeded up into the undercarriage of the engine trying to get to him.
    I bet he followed instructions the next time. Or at least, I hope he did lol
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    Garter snake. I've had one for five years and it still wants to rip my nose off.

    Anything venomous.

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    Re: Which Snake Species Should I Not Get Next?

    Quote Originally Posted by enginee837 View Post
    Gotta love speak to text. Anyhow, I grew up on a pseudo farm in the desert of Phoenix Az. We had rattlesnakes of all kinds, bull snakes, king snakes, knight snakes etc. We used to use red racers to snake train our dogs. After 5 min with a red racer they would have enough bites on their nose that they would never mess with any snake let alone a rattlesnake ever again.
    The instance I was referring to happened at work. We got a call for a snake removal. Snake was located in the garage of a residence. As usual it was reported as a rattlesnake. On arrival I saw the reddish gray tail sticking out from behind some boxes so I knew what it was.
    The garage was pretty cool so I knew it would be more docile than usual and I did not want to chance harming it with the snake pole our firefighter had so I chose to tail it and put it in the bucket. I got it out of where it was and in the bucket rather uneventfully while everyone looked on in horror as I used my hands to pick up what they though was a venomous reptile. At this point we loaded it up in the engine and drove it across the street and out into the desert.
    I knew after having some time to warm up it would be rather feisty so I instructed my firefighter to walk no less than 50 feet out, unscrew the bucket and kick it over facing away from him. Well he must have thought I was joking because he walked about 5 feet from the truck unscrewed the lid and dropped it at his feet. The rather large pissed off snake turned around and struck at him. He proceeded to let out a squeal that would have made a 3rd grade girl proud as he ran back to the truck. In typical coachwhip fashion it followed him in a periscoping Sprint biting at his heels. He got in the truck and closed the door just in time so it proceeded up into the undercarriage of the engine trying to get to him.
    That truly made me lol that how you told the story I just envisioned every point of the story and laughed the whole time! Thanks I needed a good laugh!


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    Which Snake Species Should I Not Get Next?

    And honestly, if your not worried about size, my Red tail Boa is probably one of the most active but lovable snakes I have! Inquisitive, active, fast, but really a puppy dog. I’ve had zero aspects of aggression, even during shed.


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    Re: Which Snake Species Should I Not Get Next?

    Quote Originally Posted by enginee837 View Post
    5 feet from the truck unscrewed the lid and dropped it at his feet. The rather large pissed off snake turned around and struck at him. He proceeded to let out a squeal that would have made a 3rd grade girl proud as he ran back to the truck. In typical coachwhip fashion it followed him in a periscoping Sprint biting at his heels. He got in the truck and closed the door just in time so it proceeded up into the undercarriage of the engine trying to get to him.
    Alternative perspective: a disoriented snake was dumped out of a bucket and, upon seeing the looming human, proceeded to defend itself. Being just a step and a half away from the truck, when your firefighter turned to flee the snake also took the opportunity to retreat to the nearest cover - the undercarriage. Since they're going in the same direction, the snake felt further threatened and maybe took another swing or two along the way. The whole incident sounds hilarious but I still feel like 2 of the more notable coachwhip attributes(speed and defensiveness) have led to another misunderstanding. If your firefighter had just placed the bucket on the ground and turned to face the other direction, I wager that snake would have calmly slithered out and away.

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    Yes, had he followed my direction and kicked the bucket away from him it would likely have gone the other way. The snake however was not retreating. There was brush closer that the engine for it to hide in and one does not continue to bite at the heals of and follow something while it is retreating.
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