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    spider Mojave x lesser = Mojave lesser(BEL)

    I am looking at buying a female BEL. I found a few on morph market. One of them lists her parents paring as spider mojave x lesser. She is listed as a mojave lesser, and the is a pure white snake. I see zero pattern on her in the pictures. My question is, is there any chance she could inherit the spider wobble with one of her parents being spider? Or only if she was visibly a spider? Could she have spider in her without even seeing it due to her being an all white snake?

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    I emailed the breeder asking the same question. She responded saying the BEL has a brother that has spider in him, and you can see it with a black light. The female has no pattern even with a black light on her(she included pics). She said she is 99% sure she does not have spider in her, and she currently doesn't display any wobble.

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    Re: spider Mojave x lesser = Mojave lesser(BEL)

    Quote Originally Posted by MmmBanana View Post
    I emailed the breeder asking the same question. She responded saying the BEL has a brother that has spider in him, and you can see it with a black light. The female has no pattern even with a black light on her(she included pics). She said she is 99% sure she does not have spider in her, and she currently doesn't display any wobble.
    If she doesn't have the gene in her then she won't have a wobble, the wobble only is present if the spider is visible on the animal, example: if you bred a spider to a normal then any normal in the clutch wouldn't have a wobble only the spiders would


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    Re: spider Mojave x lesser = Mojave lesser(BEL)

    And not all spiders display wobble. It's rare to come across a genuinely wobble free spider but it does happen xx


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    Re: spider Mojave x lesser = Mojave lesser(BEL)

    Quote Originally Posted by embrit345 View Post
    And not all spiders display wobble. It's rare to come across a genuinely wobble free spider but it does happen xx


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    This isn't a reliable statement as many only show wobble during feeding or have a wobble that seems to come and go with age so there's no way to pick one based on what's visible during that time. But to the OP, yes she either had the gene along with some degree of wobble or not at all and sounds like she doesnt.

    BELs are great!

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    Re: spider Mojave x lesser = Mojave lesser(BEL)

    Quote Originally Posted by embrit345 View Post
    And not all spiders display wobble. It's rare to come across a genuinely wobble free spider but it does happen xx


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    Ours displays no wobble.
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    Re: spider Mojave x lesser = Mojave lesser(BEL)

    Quote Originally Posted by enginee837 View Post
    Ours displays no wobble.
    They ALL do to a degree, people claiming theirs don't either do not know what to look for or don't pay close attention.

    People that have work with spiders long enough can spot the tell tell signs even in a very mild wobbler.

    You have a spider it wobbles there is not other way around it.
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    Re: spider Mojave x lesser = Mojave lesser(BEL)

    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    They ALL do to a degree, people claiming theirs don't either do not know what to look for or don't pay close attention.

    People that have work with spiders long enough can spot the tell tell signs even in a very mild wobbler.

    You have a spider it wobbles there is not other way around it.
    Nope, no head wobble, what she does do on occasion is have a missed strike on food which is the closest thing to a wobble she exhibits.
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    Thanks for the replies! For the well being of the snake, we decided to pump the brakes on getting a new snake. We were gonna put her in a tub temporarily till we could get a rack. This would leave another snake I have stuck in a glass terrarium longer. So, we are gonna get a rack and get all our current snakes properly setup in it before getting a new snake. Hoping to order a Cserpents 3 tier adult rack possibly on Friday. Then in a month or 2 we will be looking for a new snake.

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