What happens if you freeze a live feeder? Let say a rat pup

[6037201]

So let say if you just throw it inside the freezer will that kill the rat pup? Or just simply put it to sleep lol sry I don't know how to phase this
After that, is it safe to your snake?

Cuz I'm thinking getting a live rat pup for my bp but not sure if he's gonna eat so I don't waste it and maybe feed him another time

[BPGator]

If you freeze a live rat pup it will freeze to death. If you thaw it out, it will still be dead.


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[JustinGatCat]

It's not really a good way to die in my opinion. Probably a slow agonizing way to die.


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[VIP CONSTRICTORS]

Drown it in freezing water. Not cold but freezing. Thats best without using gas

[AbsoluteApril]

Freezing a live mammal is incredibly cruel, ice crystals form in the blood and it is a slow painful way to die. Drowning is horrible as well, I can't believe that is being recommended.
Humane euthanasia is the way to go, one should show value for all life. C02 is the preferred method, if you know how, cervical dislocation can be done but if you don't know how to do it, then you may cause un-needed pain and suffering that way as well. I've also thumped them before (blunt force head trama) but I don't deal with live feeders any longer.
OP if you snake won't feed, can you take it back to the store then? Don't just toss it in the freezer, please.

[Kira]

Why would you even consider doing something so cruel? Just take it back to the store. Not sure why you would jump to freezing it to death...

[Gc99]

Go to youtube and search cervical dislocation, i tried it for the first time today with 2 rat pups (i ran out of frozen) and it was an instant kill and super easy, specially with a rat pup

[MissterDog]

Just curious, why not start with f/t? Or does your snake only eat live? It seems you were intending to try frozen anyways if your snake refuses, so why not see if your snake accepts f/t before trying it in the reverse order?

If you're that set on trying live and 'not wasting' it, then please seek a more humane way to kill your feeder, such as CO2. You can even do so inexpensively https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...anize-Humanely

[redshepherd]

Actually, I'm curious if anyone knows exactly how long it takes to co2 euth a rat pup, fuzzy, or pink? I've heard that the pinks~pups are very hard to kill using co2 as well, because they use very little oxygen. So depending on which is faster, freezing may even be more humane to pinks to small pups compared to co2. But the most humane way is cervical dislocation.

That said, it sounds like you're having trouble getting your bp to eat? There are usually husbandry reasons why bp's don't eat, and you can get it eating f/t by just fixing those things, instead of buying live.

Buying live feeders is for snakes who have all their temps and setup on point, and still won't take f/t.

[Hypancistrus]

Actually, I'm curious if anyone knows exactly how long it takes to co2 euth a rat pup, fuzzy, or pink? I've heard that the pinks~pups are very hard to kill using co2 as well, because they use very little oxygen. So depending on which is faster, freezing may even be more humane to pinks to small pups compared to co2. But the most humane way is cervical dislocation.

I have a friend who raises show rodents, and the ones she cannot find homes for, or the "surplus males," have to be euthanized. She typically does this when they are very young (fuzzy sized) and for the pinks, she either throws them against a hard surface (like the floor) which causes instant death, or uses cervical dislocation (for rats).

To the OP... if the snake really will not eat it (and if it is a healthy BP, I doubt this will be an issue) then take the live rodent back to the store. Do not freeze it.