Vote for BP.Net for the 2013 Forum of the Year! Click here for more info.

» Site Navigation

» Home
 > FAQ

» Online Users: 674

1 members and 673 guests
Most users ever online was 47,180, 07-16-2025 at 05:30 PM.

» Today's Birthdays

None

» Stats

Members: 75,909
Threads: 249,112
Posts: 2,572,162
Top Poster: JLC (31,651)
Welcome to our newest member, KoreyBuchanan
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 17
  1. #1
    Registered User
    Join Date
    06-17-2016
    Posts
    72
    Thanks
    98
    Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts

    Enclosure height?

    Is 25cm an ok hight for an enclosure housing an adult BP?
    Thanks.

  2. #2
    Telling it like it is! Stewart_Reptiles's Avatar
    Join Date
    09-28-2006
    Posts
    24,845
    Thanks
    6,116
    Thanked 20,811 Times in 9,584 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1
    Images: 6

    Re: Enclosure height?

    Quote Originally Posted by Archer View Post
    Is 25cm an ok hight for an enclosure housing an adult BP?
    Thanks.
    Yes it's fine.
    Deborah Stewart


  3. The Following User Says Thank You to Stewart_Reptiles For This Useful Post:

    Archer (05-31-2017)

  4. #3
    Banned
    Join Date
    03-16-2017
    Posts
    338
    Thanks
    41
    Thanked 46 Times in 37 Posts

    Re: Enclosure height?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deborah View Post
    Yes it's fine.
    I totally disagree. I had my adult male in a 50cm high enclosure and was small for him. I moved him recently to his new 100cm high enclosure and he is climbing and using all the space. I would say for an adult 50cm height is the minimum if you want to keep it in a proper way.
    Last edited by Dutti; 06-01-2017 at 12:10 AM.

  5. #4
    BPnet Royalty KMG's Avatar
    Join Date
    06-09-2012
    Location
    Tx
    Posts
    5,633
    Thanks
    1,032
    Thanked 2,944 Times in 1,958 Posts
    Images: 55

    Re: Enclosure height?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutti View Post
    I totally disagree. I had my adult male in a 50cm high enclosure and was small for him. I moved him recently to his new 100cm high enclosure and he is climbing and using all the space. I would say for an adult 50cm height is the minimum if you want to keep it in a proper way.
    Yes you can go higher but Deborah is not wrong. I bet the OP is using a tub setup which is a common method with keepers and they are usually fairly shallow.

    A 100 cm cage for a BP cage is a waste in my opinion. My ETB and GTP don't even have cages that tall.
    Last edited by KMG; 06-01-2017 at 12:34 AM.
    KMG
    0.1 BP 1.1 Blood Python 1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa 1.0 Aru Green Tree Python
    0.1 Emerald Tree Boa 0.1 Dumeril Boa 0.1 Carpet Python 0.1 Central American Boa
    0.1 Brooks Kingsnake 0.1 Speckled Kingsnake 1.0 Western Hognose
    0.1 Blonde Madagascar Hognose 1.0 Columbian Boa

    1.1 Olde English Bulldogge 1.0 Pit Bull

  6. The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to KMG For This Useful Post:

    AbsoluteApril (06-01-2017),Craiga 01453 (06-02-2017),PitOnTheProwl (06-01-2017)

  7. #5
    Banned
    Join Date
    03-16-2017
    Posts
    338
    Thanks
    41
    Thanked 46 Times in 37 Posts

    Re: Enclosure height?

    Quote Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    Yes you can go higher but Deborah is not wrong. I bet the OP is using a tub setup which is a common method with keepers and they are usually fairly shallow.

    A 100 cm cage for a BP cage is a waste in my opinion. My ETB and GTP don't even have cages that tall.
    I did not recommend 100 cm high cage for everybody. I did it because i had the space for it, and its not a waste. I just shared my experience. If you are keeping the snake in tubes that is another issue. I find that less than 50 cm enclosure height "tank not tube" for an adult is small, specially if the floor space of the enclosure was not sufficient
    Last edited by Dutti; 06-01-2017 at 12:57 AM.

  8. #6
    BPnet Royalty KMG's Avatar
    Join Date
    06-09-2012
    Location
    Tx
    Posts
    5,633
    Thanks
    1,032
    Thanked 2,944 Times in 1,958 Posts
    Images: 55

    Re: Enclosure height?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutti View Post
    I did not recommend 100 cm high cage for everybody. I did it because i had the space for it, and its not a waste. I just shared my experience. If you are keeping the snake in tubes that is another issue. I find that less than 50 cm enclosure height "tank not tube" for an adult is small, specially if the floor space of the enclosure was not sufficient
    I know you didn't recommend a 100. You did however say 50cm should be the minimum height and I think that's just ridiculous. No matter if it is a tank or tub a BP doesn't need 50cm. Yes, the floor space should be sufficient but that was not the question.

    My ETB is in a 36x24x24(inches) cage and there is no way my BP would ever need such a cage. Yes, you can certainly provide it but it is not needed or in any way necessary.

    Saying "for an adult 50cm height is the minimum if you want to keep it in a proper way" is just flat out wrong. That may be your opinion but having a shorter cage is not improper. You may not agree with it but it's not wrong.
    KMG
    0.1 BP 1.1 Blood Python 1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa 1.0 Aru Green Tree Python
    0.1 Emerald Tree Boa 0.1 Dumeril Boa 0.1 Carpet Python 0.1 Central American Boa
    0.1 Brooks Kingsnake 0.1 Speckled Kingsnake 1.0 Western Hognose
    0.1 Blonde Madagascar Hognose 1.0 Columbian Boa

    1.1 Olde English Bulldogge 1.0 Pit Bull

  9. #7
    Banned
    Join Date
    03-16-2017
    Posts
    338
    Thanks
    41
    Thanked 46 Times in 37 Posts

    Re: Enclosure height?

    Quote Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    I know you didn't recommend a 100. You did however say 50cm should be the minimum height and I think that's just ridiculous. No matter if it is a tank or tub a BP doesn't need 50cm. Yes, the floor space should be sufficient but that was not the question.

    My ETB is in a 36x24x24(inches) cage and there is no way my BP would ever need such a cage. Yes, you can certainly provide it but it is not needed or in any way necessary.

    Saying "for an adult 50cm height is the minimum if you want to keep it in a proper way" is just flat out wrong. That may be your opinion but having a shorter cage is not improper. You may not agree with it but it's not wrong.
    Let me tell you what i meant exactly with 50cm minimum height for an adult according to the experience that i had. My adult 4 feet male was housed in a cage that is in inches: 40 long, 20 deep, 20 high. 20 inches=50cm. This is the absolut minimum tank size for an animal that size if you want to keep it in a proper way. Now if you want to reduce the height you need to compensate that in adding more floor space.
    Last edited by Dutti; 06-01-2017 at 02:33 AM.

  10. #8
    BPnet Royalty KMG's Avatar
    Join Date
    06-09-2012
    Location
    Tx
    Posts
    5,633
    Thanks
    1,032
    Thanked 2,944 Times in 1,958 Posts
    Images: 55

    Re: Enclosure height?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutti View Post
    Let me tell you what i meant exactly with 50cm minimum height for an adult according to the experience that i had. My adult 4 feet male was housed in a cage that is in inches: 40 long, 20 deep, 20 high. 20 inches=50cm. This is the absolut minimum tank size for an animal that size if you want to keep it in a proper way. Now if you want to reduce the height you need to compensate that in adding more floor space.
    You shouldn't try to set a standard off of your experience with one snake. I saw your thread and even added a picture to it and this conversation is just a spin off of it.

    Your idea of "proper" is probably not far from mine. There are plenty of things I have seen here I didn't like but that didn't mean the person was wrong or was improper. We just differed in methods.
    KMG
    0.1 BP 1.1 Blood Python 1.0 Brazilian Rainbow Boa 1.0 Aru Green Tree Python
    0.1 Emerald Tree Boa 0.1 Dumeril Boa 0.1 Carpet Python 0.1 Central American Boa
    0.1 Brooks Kingsnake 0.1 Speckled Kingsnake 1.0 Western Hognose
    0.1 Blonde Madagascar Hognose 1.0 Columbian Boa

    1.1 Olde English Bulldogge 1.0 Pit Bull

  11. The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to KMG For This Useful Post:

    Craiga 01453 (06-02-2017),PokeyTheNinja (06-01-2017),redshepherd (06-01-2017),Stewart_Reptiles (06-01-2017)

  12. #9
    Sometimes It Hurts... PitOnTheProwl's Avatar
    Join Date
    11-21-2010
    Location
    San Antonio, TX
    Posts
    12,050
    Thanks
    6,313
    Thanked 6,985 Times in 4,274 Posts
    Images: 3

    Re: Enclosure height?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutti View Post
    if you want to keep it in a proper way.
    Actually IF you want to keep it proper you might want to fill that tub full of dirt and then burrow some holes in it. That is if you know their natural habitat.

  13. The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to PitOnTheProwl For This Useful Post:

    bcr229 (06-01-2017),Craiga 01453 (06-02-2017),PokeyTheNinja (06-01-2017),Prognathodon (06-01-2017),PythonBabes (10-29-2017),Stewart_Reptiles (06-01-2017)

  14. #10
    Telling it like it is! Stewart_Reptiles's Avatar
    Join Date
    09-28-2006
    Posts
    24,845
    Thanks
    6,116
    Thanked 20,811 Times in 9,584 Posts
    Blog Entries
    1
    Images: 6

    Re: Enclosure height?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutti View Post
    I totally disagree. I had my adult male in a 50cm high enclosure and was small for him. I moved him recently to his new 100cm high enclosure and he is climbing and using all the space. I would say for an adult 50cm height is the minimum if you want to keep it in a proper way.
    Glad you disagree and you can tell me how to properly keep ball pythons, after all I have only kept 50 to 75 adults and hundreds of babies in the past decade.

    BTW I also keep them without a hot spot 8 months of the year , probably not the proper way either????

    There's more then one way to skin a cat, and yes the height the OP wants to use is fine and his snake will be kept properly doing so.

    With ONE newly acquired BP I would not make such broad statement as "my way is the way to keep them properly"

    There are many ways but that was not the original question.

    Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk
    Last edited by Stewart_Reptiles; 06-01-2017 at 02:54 PM.
    Deborah Stewart


  15. The Following 5 Users Say Thank You to Stewart_Reptiles For This Useful Post:

    AbsoluteApril (06-01-2017),Craiga 01453 (06-02-2017),PokeyTheNinja (06-01-2017),PythonBabes (10-29-2017),redshepherd (06-01-2017)

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v4.2.1