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Enclosure height?
Is 25cm an ok hight for an enclosure housing an adult BP?
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Re: Enclosure height?
 Originally Posted by Archer
Is 25cm an ok hight for an enclosure housing an adult BP?
Thanks.
Yes it's fine.
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Re: Enclosure height?
 Originally Posted by Deborah
Yes it's fine.
I totally disagree. I had my adult male in a 50cm high enclosure and was small for him. I moved him recently to his new 100cm high enclosure and he is climbing and using all the space. I would say for an adult 50cm height is the minimum if you want to keep it in a proper way.
Last edited by Dutti; 06-01-2017 at 12:10 AM.
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Re: Enclosure height?
 Originally Posted by Dutti
I totally disagree. I had my adult male in a 50cm high enclosure and was small for him. I moved him recently to his new 100cm high enclosure and he is climbing and using all the space. I would say for an adult 50cm height is the minimum if you want to keep it in a proper way.
Yes you can go higher but Deborah is not wrong. I bet the OP is using a tub setup which is a common method with keepers and they are usually fairly shallow.
A 100 cm cage for a BP cage is a waste in my opinion. My ETB and GTP don't even have cages that tall.
Last edited by KMG; 06-01-2017 at 12:34 AM.
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Re: Enclosure height?
 Originally Posted by KMG
Yes you can go higher but Deborah is not wrong. I bet the OP is using a tub setup which is a common method with keepers and they are usually fairly shallow.
A 100 cm cage for a BP cage is a waste in my opinion. My ETB and GTP don't even have cages that tall.
I did not recommend 100 cm high cage for everybody. I did it because i had the space for it, and its not a waste. I just shared my experience. If you are keeping the snake in tubes that is another issue. I find that less than 50 cm enclosure height "tank not tube" for an adult is small, specially if the floor space of the enclosure was not sufficient
Last edited by Dutti; 06-01-2017 at 12:57 AM.
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Re: Enclosure height?
 Originally Posted by Dutti
I did not recommend 100 cm high cage for everybody. I did it because i had the space for it, and its not a waste. I just shared my experience. If you are keeping the snake in tubes that is another issue. I find that less than 50 cm enclosure height "tank not tube" for an adult is small, specially if the floor space of the enclosure was not sufficient
I know you didn't recommend a 100. You did however say 50cm should be the minimum height and I think that's just ridiculous. No matter if it is a tank or tub a BP doesn't need 50cm. Yes, the floor space should be sufficient but that was not the question.
My ETB is in a 36x24x24(inches) cage and there is no way my BP would ever need such a cage. Yes, you can certainly provide it but it is not needed or in any way necessary.
Saying "for an adult 50cm height is the minimum if you want to keep it in a proper way" is just flat out wrong. That may be your opinion but having a shorter cage is not improper. You may not agree with it but it's not wrong.
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Re: Enclosure height?
 Originally Posted by KMG
I know you didn't recommend a 100. You did however say 50cm should be the minimum height and I think that's just ridiculous. No matter if it is a tank or tub a BP doesn't need 50cm. Yes, the floor space should be sufficient but that was not the question.
My ETB is in a 36x24x24(inches) cage and there is no way my BP would ever need such a cage. Yes, you can certainly provide it but it is not needed or in any way necessary.
Saying "for an adult 50cm height is the minimum if you want to keep it in a proper way" is just flat out wrong. That may be your opinion but having a shorter cage is not improper. You may not agree with it but it's not wrong.
Let me tell you what i meant exactly with 50cm minimum height for an adult according to the experience that i had. My adult 4 feet male was housed in a cage that is in inches: 40 long, 20 deep, 20 high. 20 inches=50cm. This is the absolut minimum tank size for an animal that size if you want to keep it in a proper way. Now if you want to reduce the height you need to compensate that in adding more floor space.
Last edited by Dutti; 06-01-2017 at 02:33 AM.
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Re: Enclosure height?
 Originally Posted by Dutti
Let me tell you what i meant exactly with 50cm minimum height for an adult according to the experience that i had. My adult 4 feet male was housed in a cage that is in inches: 40 long, 20 deep, 20 high. 20 inches=50cm. This is the absolut minimum tank size for an animal that size if you want to keep it in a proper way. Now if you want to reduce the height you need to compensate that in adding more floor space.
You shouldn't try to set a standard off of your experience with one snake. I saw your thread and even added a picture to it and this conversation is just a spin off of it.
Your idea of "proper" is probably not far from mine. There are plenty of things I have seen here I didn't like but that didn't mean the person was wrong or was improper. We just differed in methods.
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Re: Enclosure height?
 Originally Posted by Dutti
if you want to keep it in a proper way.
Actually IF you want to keep it proper you might want to fill that tub full of dirt and then burrow some holes in it. That is if you know their natural habitat.
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Re: Enclosure height?
 Originally Posted by Dutti
I totally disagree. I had my adult male in a 50cm high enclosure and was small for him. I moved him recently to his new 100cm high enclosure and he is climbing and using all the space. I would say for an adult 50cm height is the minimum if you want to keep it in a proper way.
Glad you disagree and you can tell me how to properly keep ball pythons, after all I have only kept 50 to 75 adults and hundreds of babies in the past decade.
BTW I also keep them without a hot spot 8 months of the year , probably not the proper way either????
There's more then one way to skin a cat, and yes the height the OP wants to use is fine and his snake will be kept properly doing so.
With ONE newly acquired BP I would not make such broad statement as "my way is the way to keep them properly"
There are many ways but that was not the original question. 
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