Help! Humidity issues

[WarrThox]

Yeah RHPs all seem to be white except for some with black frames like RB's. I just ordered a loaded Boaphile pvc cage but was on the fence with the AP T10. Agree u should get an RHP that will fit a T10 but you'd be looking at 80 watts for a 4' cage right? Never work with ur current setup?


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Ya but I want to use the divider for a while and the 80 watt rhp is 12x22in. I guess it all depends if I want another ball for the other half, then I think the 40 watt would be fine for half of a T10. Unless I could notch out the divider perfectly to fit the 80w rhp, half of it on each side.

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[Bmocken]

If you didn't read all of what I said, I mentioned I can't take the bulb away. The tank will not stay warm enough without it. Also, covering part of the screen actually increases humidity accords to many forums I've read, as it keeps it from all going out the top.

I did read what you wrote but your fairly set in what you have and don't seem to want to change much. Btw any enclosure made of glass is in fact a tank even if they sell it for reptiles. There are a lot of things big companies sell because people will buy them. Doesn't mean they are the right enclosure for the kind of animal you have. Taking away the light for a little bit you could have seen if it affected the humidity in the tank and if it does start problem solving that. Hope you get it figured out for the snakes sake.

[Craiga 01453]

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Thank you so much if you have any advice! I'm open to ANY and ALL options.
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It seems to me you're asking for help, then shooting down what people are offering as suggestions. You're clearly not "open to ANY and ALL options."

You say you did research and studied the setup help threads and stickies. Then what's the issue? Your setup should have been up and running and these issues worked out BEFORE you brought a snake home.

Now you're asking for help but not willing to do what people suggest. You're coming off like an expert with the knowledge of a newbie.

Could we just talk to the snake please? Maybe the snake is a better listener?

[BPGator]

ill definitely check out the ceramic bulb! You think that'll help with humidity?
also, his heating pad is on the outside of the cage underneath, and there's an inch of substrate between his area and the warmed glass. On top of that if I feel the dirt it's just mildly warm, so I don't believe it could burn him. Plus if he got too warm he could just go to the other side of the tank. I'm not ruling a thermostat out as it is a good idea, but that's something I'll look Into once I have the humidity figured out and a healthy snake. (I had to pay 500 in vet bills cause he was sick when I got him so I don't have extra money lying around)
Thank you for the links!

I thought you said you didn't want light on. Plus the ceramic is a more efficient heat source.

I understand the UTH is on the outside and you have substrate on the inside. Ball pythons will burrow closer to the heat source over time. You may think it will just go to the cool side to cool off but it will not. These animals are stupid and will burn themselves. It is always recommended that the temp UNDER the substrate be around 90°. Yes your substrate on top will be cooler but your snake can find it's way down to the warmer spot. His spot on top of the substrate should not feel warm to you - your hand is 98° so if it feels warm there's a chance it's too hot for him. Making sure it's not too hot is more important than humidity in the short term.


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[ConWolf416]

I have a tank and this is what I do.

UTH set to 93F
Moss. Dampen new moss before putting in or I just heavily mist the moss that's already in there. I have foil covering the mesh top to help lock in moisture.


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Only using a UTH his tank wouldn't go above 75 degrees. Which means I need some sort of overhead heater too

[ConWolf416]

It seems to me you're asking for help, then shooting down what people are offering as suggestions. You're clearly not "open to ANY and ALL options."

You say you did research and studied the setup help threads and stickies. Then what's the issue? Your setup should have been up and running and these issues worked out BEFORE you brought a snake home.

Now you're asking for help but not willing to do what people suggest. You're coming off like an expert with the knowledge of a newbie.

Could we just talk to the snake please? Maybe the snake is a better listener?

Saying im open to any options means I'm willing to hear any options you have. It doesn't mean I'm going to try them, so me saying no that won't work for me personally doesn't mean I'm not one to hearing options? I'm not an expert, I said I wasn't one. I'm not acting like an expert. There are certain things I cannot do. I cannot switch to a tub. I cannot only use a UTH cause it doesn't warm up the tank. I'm not throwing away suggestions just cause I don't like them. I can't do certain things.
i bought the tank a week before I bought him, but I didn't get the heat lamp until I got him. So I wasn't aware there was a humidity issue. And I understand I should've got everything before, I agree, but I got all my money at once so I just bought the stuff then.

[ConWolf416]

I thought you said you didn't want light on. Plus the ceramic is a more efficient heat source.

I understand the UTH is on the outside and you have substrate on the inside. Ball pythons will burrow closer to the heat source over time. You may think it will just go to the cool side to cool off but it will not. These animals are stupid and will burn themselves. It is always recommended that the temp UNDER the substrate be around 90°. Yes your substrate on top will be cooler but your snake can find it's way down to the warmer spot. His spot on top of the substrate should not feel warm to you - your hand is 98° so if it feels warm there's a chance it's too hot for him. Making sure it's not too hot is more important than humidity in the short term.


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I'm going to look into getting a thermostat for my UTH and look into ceramic heaters. Thanks for your advice, you're the only person who actually gave good advice.

[Zincubus]

I'd put some branches in there ... The love climbing !


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[ferrislongdog]

If you are still looking for ideas:
I have had a huge 40 gal tank since November. Despite all the suggestions to buy new heating equipment, use a tub instead etc etc, I found other ways to retain humidity that were much less costly than changing too much. My methods still are:
A couple of damp washcloths (you can move up to towels if you want),a layer of cut plexiglass that has an opening for the lights, and some dry regular towels on top of that if needed. Those are best for retaining heat.
Inside I use sphagnum moss, repti-bark (I find it hold humidity well without getting nasty, and unlike loose fiber won't get dusty when dry) mixed with an area of tropical mix (dirt-like) bedding on the cool side.
Most useful:
HUMID HIDE. Slapped one right in the middle and have the tropical bedding and a pile of moist moss in it. My BP spends a lot of time in it, and since I added it, he's had flawless sheds combined with occasional misting. It creates a little spot of higher humidity than the baseline 50 my tank is at often for when he needs it. You can make one out of a container that's a good size and save some money there too if you'd like!
I figured these out with trial and error here and there, and he turned out just fine without me wasting all my current supplies and getting all new.