DNA, Chromosomes and Chimera talk

[AntTheDestroyer]

Oh, we are going to go there are we?

Sure, according to the laws of probability anything is possible. But while there is a minuscule probability of jumping from the top of Burj Khalifa and living I can absolutely guarantee that actually going and doing it means you will die. Because science (aka gravity) says you will




And yet your argument is that it is possible to do exactly that. In a somehow anatomically/spatially selective manner.




No, we are talking about collective genomic inheritance and expression. A hybrid will inherit a full compliment of chromosomes from each parent and so each [somatic] cell will carry both sets of chromosomes and, with some few exceptions, all of the genes from both parents will be expressed in those cells.

You will never get a hybrid where the "outside" cells are made up exclusively of only ball python chromosome cells and the "inside" cells are made up exclusively of only blood python chromosome cells. It absolutely, fundamentally cannot happen.




Yes well... I can explain genetics in minute detail






Careful there Ant, you do not want to go speaking in absolutes because that is neither scientific or advisable...


Fact of the matter is that you are both right and both wrong. While polyploidy most often does result in infertile offspring there are documented cases of fertile polyploids that have occurred, generally leading to a speciation event. Some quick examples that come to mind are the Grey and Cope's Grey treefrog and the horned frogs Ceratophrys cranwelli and C. ornata along with more blatant examples like the wheat and corn that humans have cultivated for centuries.


The long and the short of it is that, regardless of whatever mystical hand waving you want to try throwing at it, what the vet claimed is simply not possible.

...And yet people have survived jumping out of plains so it not impossible just highly unlikely. This is a perfect example of a straw man argument.

My argument is that you could have something that looks like a ball python on the outside and has reproductive organs that appear to be from a blood python. I provided the way it could be possible just by phenotypic expression, the more likely option, and by actual genetic make up. The second is a bit of a stretch, but not impossible. I will leave it you to try to specifically refute them.

No you did not explain every minute detail, because that would be insanely tedius. That was my point. Secondly no you can not as not every thing about genetic inheritance is fully understood, by the human race at least. Maybe you are some sort of omnicent being, then I will eat my words.

He made the statement that all diploids that becone polyploids are infertile and i provided proof that was not true. I never said that all polyploids are fertile. So where did I speak in absolutes?

Did you come here to make grandstands or talk about genetics? If it is the latter I would be interested in hearing where you think I am wrong, with in genetic possibility. The only part of your post that had substance was the last section and unfortunately you didn't go into much detail. Yes i am talking about things that are highly unlikely, but that is a far stretch from impossible. Science was once considered magic.