Question for those who breed feeders for their snakes.

[CALM Pythons]

Well. Hm.

I guess you'll have to wait and see how it goes And be a little more "aware" during handling and maintenance.

Yup.. Deborah says she kept them all together at one point and didnt have problems.. Also as ive noticed the same at pet stores... Im hoping/thinking after awhile it will be a normal smell to them ..

[Hannahshissyfix]

Do you have more than just the 3 snakes now? I love rats as pets and have had them for years but honestly, they do still stink up a room fast and really don't think the constant cleaning is worth the time to keep 3 snakes fed.

[CALM Pythons]

Do you have more than just the 3 snakes now? I love rats as pets and have had them for years but honestly, they do still stink up a room fast and really don't think the constant cleaning is worth the time to keep 3 snakes fed.

Id agree if feeders weren't a problem over the last year or so. My local stopped carrying Rats & Rabbits he has to special order, the next little city over wants $15 a Xl Rat.. And their mice are even to small for my balls over the last month. I dont feed frozen, only fresh kill. The smell of a Rat in my basement is not noticeable to humans... Its the snakes im asking about & going into Feed Mode of a full grown Burm.

[distaff]

Id agree if feeders weren't a problem over the last year or so. My local stopped carrying Rats & Rabbits he has to special order, the next little city over wants $15 a Xl Rat.. And their mice are even to small for my balls over the last month. I dont feed frozen, only fresh kill. The smell of a Rat in my basement is not noticeable to humans... Its the snakes im asking about & going into Feed Mode of a full grown Burm.

There are almost certainly people near you raising meat rabbits.
We just like to keep a low profile.
Ask around.

[cchardwick]

Here's what I do, I keep rats, mice, and snakes all in the same room and there is almost no smell at all except at the end of every 5 days when it's time to clean the rodents. The snakes don't mind one bit, in fact when it's rodent cleaning day I feed my snakes, it gets them in the mood LOL.

For my rats I keep them all on newspaper and shredded paper that I get free from work. I currently have 18 tubs (out of 20) full with mom and dad and babies (~ 20 total per tub) or a male/female ready to breed, or mid size rats up to 7 per tub (ARS rat breeder rack). I keep a box fan air filter right next to my rat rack with two layers of activated carbon filter pad in the front of it.

For my mice I keep them in glass critter cages with screen tops, similar to aquariums (8 tanks total, three 40 gallons, four 10 gallons, and one five gallon tank). I use packing tape and tape on a carbon filter pad over the top of the screen so that it covers the entire top of the tank. When I open the tank the smell about knocks me over, especially the male tanks. With the screen lid closed with carbon filter pad I can't smell a thing up until the fifth day. Some times I'll have up to 40-50 mice per tank! In my 10 gallon tanks I usually limit it to 20 per tank, even that is excessive, but I pile up crumpled up newspaper in there so it's like a big 3D maze LOL. I use the 10 gallons to separate males and females and to grow them out.

I got rid of my ASFs, they produce way too slow. I've only ever been nipped by one rodent and it was an ASF. Never have my mice or rats tried to bite me. I always give them some notice for several seconds before I pick them up and never move too fast like I'm trying to hurt them.

I keep my snakes on coconut husk substrate, keeps the smells to zero.

Here's a link to the carbon filters I use for my mouse tanks and box fan air filter. I'd say I replace them every couple months or so.

https://www.filtersfast.com/P-Hunter...bon-Filter.asp

The smell of my snake / rodent room is hardly noticeable even when you are in the room. It's way less than if you just had one male mouse in a tank all by itself. Those male mice really stink, I can't even bring them home from the pet store without having to get them out of the cab of my truck and back in the bed of my pickup LOL. But my white line of mice are far more productive than any other rodent I've ever seen, even more so than my rats. And the retired breeders get to a respectable size. I tried to keep mice without the carbon filter pads on top, forget about it. You can smell them the second you walk in the house.

[predatorkeeper87]

My experience with common rats is that they stink to high heavens. Tried all kinds of bedding. Tried changing bedding every 72hrs. Tried vanilla in their drinking water, then lemon. They stink. They are disgusting, putrid animals. It's not just their urine, and their feces. No, it's them themselves. A large breeder sized buck male rat especially stinks like a pig.

3 ladies you say? Perfume? Fruity? Oh, that will all change soon, as a new, very organic, very non-fruity perfume will now pervade your house. Every fabric will reek. Mutiny, male (human) tossed to street. Another snake collection on craigsList. Locusts in the large numbers across the plains. But I digress.

We breed ASF's now. No odor.

Have fun!

my rats, big males included, don't smell that bad....at all. I don't use vanilla and change out the bedding once a week (aspen), no smell other than typical small animal smell. I had them in my room right next to my snake rack for months and it was never noticeable.

Mice on the other hand...smell like the devil himself crapped in tinfoil and microwaved it in your house.

[CALM Pythons]

Here's what I do, I keep rats, mice, and snakes all in the same room and there is almost no smell at all except at the end of every 5 days when it's time to clean the rodents. The snakes don't mind one bit, in fact when it's rodent cleaning day I feed my snakes, it gets them in the mood LOL.

For my rats I keep them all on newspaper and shredded paper that I get free from work. I currently have 18 tubs (out of 20) full with mom and dad and babies (~ 20 total per tub) or a male/female ready to breed, or mid size rats up to 7 per tub (ARS rat breeder rack). I keep a box fan air filter right next to my rat rack with two layers of activated carbon filter pad in the front of it.

For my mice I keep them in glass critter cages with screen tops, similar to aquariums (8 tanks total, three 40 gallons, four 10 gallons, and one five gallon tank). I use packing tape and tape on a carbon filter pad over the top of the screen so that it covers the entire top of the tank. When I open the tank the smell about knocks me over, especially the male tanks. With the screen lid closed with carbon filter pad I can't smell a thing up until the fifth day. Some times I'll have up to 40-50 mice per tank! In my 10 gallon tanks I usually limit it to 20 per tank, even that is excessive, but I pile up crumpled up newspaper in there so it's like a big 3D maze LOL. I use the 10 gallons to separate males and females and to grow them out.

I got rid of my ASFs, they produce way too slow. I've only ever been nipped by one rodent and it was an ASF. Never have my mice or rats tried to bite me. I always give them some notice for several seconds before I pick them up and never move too fast like I'm trying to hurt them.

I keep my snakes on coconut husk substrate, keeps the smells to zero.

Here's a link to the carbon filters I use for my mouse tanks and box fan air filter. I'd say I replace them every couple months or so.

https://www.filtersfast.com/P-Hunter...bon-Filter.asp

The smell of my snake / rodent room is hardly noticeable even when you are in the room. It's way less than if you just had one male mouse in a tank all by itself. Those male mice really stink, I can't even bring them home from the pet store without having to get them out of the cab of my truck and back in the bed of my pickup LOL. But my white line of mice are far more productive than any other rodent I've ever seen, even more so than my rats. And the retired breeders get to a respectable size. I tried to keep mice without the carbon filter pads on top, forget about it. You can smell them the second you walk in the house.

I was waiting for you to Chime in and If I could I would of Tagged you hahahaha. Thank you for the links, ive seen the Charcoal sold for smelly areas/rooms in a bag but honestly ive never seen a filter or used one that i know of and Id like to do that. Ive heard about them being in air purifying units though. I have a 40 Gallon long im going to turn into a Rat breeding tank I think instead of all these totes I bought. It was one of my quarantines for snakes but I have 2 others for that. Im thinking of just having 1.2 in there and figuring/trial running a schedule for feeding 2 balls and 1 burm.. I have mice producing now to hold me over for the Balls until the Rats get going and growing.

[CALM Pythons]

There are almost certainly people near you raising meat rabbits.
We just like to keep a low profile.
Ask around.

Im sure your right but I don't like people that much so Im sure I wont find out hahahha. It will be easier for me during the summer when I leave the house at 4:30am and get home 6:30/8pm to have things on hand. I have 1 day a week to do all the Outside stuff "the lawn ect"... I'm sick of the "Mom & Pop" shop
having what they have when they want to have it.. Last time he nothing but a Hamster and a Guinea pig and said they were "Pet Prices"... Nahh Im done with that.

[cchardwick]

I actually have a pretty expensive air filter but if I did it again I'd just get a box fan, keep it on the low setting, and put the carbon pads on the intake side. Cheap and easy.

[CALM Pythons]

I actually have a pretty expensive air filter but if I did it again I'd just get a box fan, keep it on the low setting, and put the carbon pads on the intake side. Cheap and easy.

So basically your making a Air filtration fan.... Do you recommend buying 2 of those filters so the entire back if the fan is covered or do I need to run 1/2 the fan surface so it pulls air better IYO?