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    Newbie! Picking first BP

    Hello everyone.! Not only am i new to the forum but to owning a BP in general. I've gotten a lot of my questions answered about the tank set up and does and donts with set up and also feeding, just by clicking around the forums. I should be setting up my tank today or tomorrow. I want to get humidity and temperatures good before adding the new family member. But I do have a question about actually picking a BP. I believe I've seen people say that an active one is a stressed one. But at my first glance I'd feel like they'd be better. Took my kids to pet store over weekend to see how they'd react to one and they did great. We held one that was very active in tank and one that wasn't. I don't know how much of a difference there activity if any should determine witch one to buy. If that's not a factor then what should I be looking for when looking for one. Any information would help. Thanks a lot on advance.

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    Re: Newbie! Picking first BP

    an "active" BP is not something to be looking for; active BPs are stressed. they spend like 90% of their time hiding when they are properly cared for, and that's what you WANT with a BP.
    if you want a more active snake, look into corn snakes. a BP will not live up to your expectations as "active."
    what you should be looking for is one that you like!
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    1. Read this care sheet and decide if a tank is really the right set up for you.
    2. Happy ball pythons do not do much so if the animal is running all over the tank there is most likely something wrong.
    3. Health is hard to determine by site only if you do not have experience with this animal. You want to look at length to girth ratio, shedding conditions and the presence of parasites. The animal's feeding history is also important.
    4. If you like active animals, a ball python is not a good choice for you. They are one step above a pet rock when they are healthy and happy. A rat snake may be a better option.
    5. Avoid pet stores. There are many fine breeders on the internet as well as on this board that will guarantee that you receive a quality healthy animal. Most pet stores will not.
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    Re: Newbie! Picking first BP

    It really doesn't matter if the snake is active or not when purchasing,as long as the environment you provide is suitable that "active" snake will chill out &hide 95% of the time,an active snake is a stressed snake but its probally because of the environment they are currently in or couldve been just moved into the tank

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    If you want a slightly more active and hardy snake, I would recommend a corn snake. Both snakes hide a lot, but corns are a bit more active when it comes to movement and exploring. They also tend to feed better.

    That being said, most snakes are inactive for a lot of the time, and are fairly nocturnal. If you want a more active pet (that doesn't live for 30 years or so!) another type of reptile might be better. You are definitely right to set up the tank and run a test of all the temperatures and humidity before you get your snake though. I also recommend the page Jordan linked as well, the caresheets really helped me get my setup right.

    Good luck!

    (P.S. Here is a ball python check list for all the things you might need, it's worth having a quick look through to make sure you have everything.)
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    Re: Newbie! Picking first BP

    Quote Originally Posted by Hlow87 View Post
    It really doesn't matter if the snake is active or not when purchasing,as long as the environment you provide is suitable that "active" snake will chill out &hide 95% of the time,an active snake is a stressed snake but its probally because of the environment they are currently in or couldve been just moved into the tank

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    This is true, however if you do not have the experience to determine if the animal is healthy or not why risk it? A bad decision can result in money lost on the animal itself and a few hundred in vet bills. In my opinion a first time ball python owner should NOT buy from a pet store. Was in one the other day. $100 for a skinny sub-par pastel with stuck shed. Made me sick. If the OP really wants a ball a local breeder with references would be the best bet followed by the recommendations I made earlier.

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    Welcome! This is a good guide for getting hatchlings established and eating. I dont know how old your snake will but if its a little guy, check out that link. The attention to detail in the beginning pays off.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...-hatchling-101

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    I have a lot of faith in looking for an animal you connect with, both pattern wise and personality. we went to 7 pets stores before buying our first BRB, talking with folks and looking for someone who seemed reasonably competent but most importantly learning what to look for and finding a snake that we connected with. and if there is one thing that should come with everyone's first BP, it's a temp gun!

    glad to hear you are setting things up in advance, that is too often the exception when it should be the norm.
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    Re: Newbie! Picking first BP

    Ok. Thanks for all the info so far. I am going to look into finding a breeder in my area as an option. I do want a ball python i really like their calmness. Just didn't know how much of a factor it played buying one on there activity. But while at pet store he did mention they had just received the one that was being very active so I did kind of figure he was a little stressed.

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    I'd also seriously recommend buying a ball python from a breeder online. You can check out morphmarket and the ball python classifieds groups on facebook (there are a few).

    Find a reputable hobby breeder and you'll get a healthy, eating animal for a much lower price than the pet store. The pet store really just has too many unknown health risks + high price. There's no way to spot illnesses or other issues in snakes just by holding and looking at it for a minute (unless the infection is already in an advanced stage... thinking about RI), especially for a beginner.




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