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    Double underbelly heaters? + heating questions

    Ok total noob when it comes to this topic and how things work. I'm probably going to ask a lot of stupidly obvious questions but I rather make sure I understand things. There is going to be a fair bit I'm asking, so thank you in advance for taking the time to read everything!

    So questions!


    1. How exactly do UTH/RHP's work? Specifically flexwatt and how is heat controlled. I'm guessing you can manually adjust the heat as needed? Or is it just a set thing? If so how do you lower/raise temps? What do you do when it's too hot or too cold?

    2. Is having a single heat source enough? For example I plan to get either a T10 or T11 from Animal Plastics, will having the a single flexwatt be enough to keep the cage well heated?

    3. For my AP cage setup I plan on using their divider temporarily. Half cage to start then full cage when my bp is fully grown. On this thread https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...With-Pictures!
    it states dividers set ups should have the flexwatt on the center. However it was not specified if this was for a permanent or temp set up. If mine will be temporary would the flexwatt be on the center or the right side/where it's meant to be slotted in? Will there be enough space between the pad and the divided wall to provide the needed heat gradient?

    4. Keying off of question 2, would it be better to have two heat sources? Such as having either both flexwatt AND rhp or two flexwatts? Would that help guarantee temps to be where they should be or would that be overkill and make things too hot.


    Now the golden question:
    Can I use two flexwatts? One on the cool side and one on the hot side as separate units?

    Reason I ask is because someone suggested that you can have an option with your AP set up to have the belly heat run on both the ends, cool and hot, but hooked up to separate T-stats which could lesson the need for a light or CHE. Is this true? It's the first time I've heard about this but I've seen others commenting how they wish they had their AP's set up like that.

    I admit I'm still confused and a lot of this is coming from not knowing how to control temperature from the heaters, but would that mess with the ambient/cool temperature at all? Or can you set temperature caps?

    Thanks for reading! Sorry for my newbness!

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    Thermostat controls your heat source.
    THG and FlexAWatt are sold by the foot so as long as they are EXACLY identical you can run multiple on the same thermostat as long as you dont overload the stat.
    UTH is only for a regulated hot spot and does nothing for ambient air temperatures.
    Depending how cool the room is you will either need to warm the room or use overhead heating.

    You might look at radient heat panels.

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    Re: Double underbelly heaters? + heating questions

    Quote Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Thermostat controls your heat source.
    THG and FlexAWatt are sold by the foot so as long as they are EXACLY identical you can run multiple on the same thermostat as long as you dont overload the stat.
    UTH is only for a regulated hot spot and does nothing for ambient air temperatures.
    Depending how cool the room is you will either need to warm the room or use overhead heating.

    You might look at radient heat panels.
    Thank you for the quick reply! I'm still very new to this and I'm still getting the basics down. I've heard very good things about reptile basic's rhp. Question is what watt is appropriate for a T10 or T11? Where are rhp usually placed on top? Middle or on the hot side? Should I get 2 since I plan to divide my cage?

    Not sure how cool the room will be but I admit I have a preference for keeping things cool, 68-72 usually. Don't have a house yet but I'd probably have the cage on the upper floors or in the computer room since they will probably be warmer.

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    Re: Double underbelly heaters? + heating questions

    Reptile basics will help you figure out the right size. Tell them the cage dimensions and the general temp of the room your snake will be in. Also explain the setup of the cage you plan on with the divider. Rhp typically goes on the side you want to be hot. That way there can be a gradient to a cool side.

    Also, if reptile basics doesnt help you (don't know why they wouldn't) then Pro Products will definitely help you. Pro products will also ship right to animal plastics for you
    Last edited by SKO; 02-25-2017 at 02:07 PM.

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    Re: Double underbelly heaters? + heating questions

    Quote Originally Posted by MissterDog View Post
    Thank you for the quick reply! I'm still very new to this and I'm still getting the basics down. I've heard very good things about reptile basic's rhp. Question is what watt is appropriate for a T10 or T11? Where are rhp usually placed on top? Middle or on the hot side? Should I get 2 since I plan to divide my cage?

    Not sure how cool the room will be but I admit I have a preference for keeping things cool, 68-72 usually. Don't have a house yet but I'd probably have the cage on the upper floors or in the computer room since they will probably be warmer.
    The best manufacturer out there is Pro Panels. For a T10 you can go with (2)40 watt RHP (1 for each side). When you tell Bob (owner) what your enclosure is he will tell you wich one you need.
    I new I was going to upgrade to 2 separate enclosures instead of a divided after the snakes were 10 months to a year old so I bought the bigger RHP's so that I didnt have to buy 2 new big ones once I bought another enclosure. Then i would of been stuck with (2) 40 watt RHP and have to buy (2) new 80 watt ones for
    2 T-10..
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    Thank you so much for the feedback! You guys have been so amazing and helpful. Will definitely check out/contact both Reptile basics and Pro Panels! Great to know the owners are so open to communication!

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    Re: Double underbelly heaters? + heating questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Sully View Post
    The best manufacturer out there is Pro Panels. For a T10 you can go with (2)40 watt RHP (1 for each side). When you tell Bob (owner) what your enclosure is he will tell you wich one you need.
    I new I was going to upgrade to 2 separate enclosures instead of a divided after the snakes were 10 months to a year old so I bought the bigger RHP's so that I didnt have to buy 2 new big ones once I bought another enclosure. Then i would of been stuck with (2) 40 watt RHP and have to buy (2) new 80 watt ones for
    2 T-10..
    http://pro-products.com/pro-heat/
    Just to make sure I'm understanding, so having one RHP on the hot side and one on the cool? Would there be a risk of having the ambient heat too hot or is that not an issue bc I'd be able to control it with thermostats?

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    Re: Double underbelly heaters? + heating questions

    Quote Originally Posted by MissterDog View Post
    Just to make sure I'm understanding, so having one RHP on the hot side and one on the cool? Would there be a risk of having the ambient heat too hot or is that not an issue bc I'd be able to control it with thermostats?
    Noooo, one RHP on the hot on side makes the opposite side the cool side.. You either do that in the entire enclosure (1 snake) or you divide the T10 into (2) 24x24x15" sides and each then beed their own Rhp for heat.. But still the same idea, you put the RHP all the way to one side and the far side will then be cool side.

    If you divide a T10 you would use a 40 Watt RHP for each side/snake otherwise you would use and 80 Watt for one snake using the entire enclosure.
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    1.0 Hypo Burmese (Giacomo/AKA Jock)
    1.2 Razors Edge/Gotti & American Pit Bull
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    1.1 Albino/Normal Burmese (Mr & Mrs Snake)
    1.0 Albino Ball (Sully)

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    Re: Double underbelly heaters? + heating questions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Sully View Post
    Noooo, one RHP on the hot on side makes the opposite side the cool side.. You either do that in the entire enclosure (1 snake) or you divide the T10 into (2) 24x24x15" sides and each then beed their own Rhp for heat.. But still the same idea, you put the RHP all the way to one side and the far side will then be cool side.

    If you divide a T10 you would use a 40 Watt RHP for each side/snake otherwise you would use and 80 Watt for one snake using the entire enclosure.
    Oooh ok! Sorry I misunderstood that completely, thank you for correcting me.

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