Peruvian Long Tail Boa

[GoldSheep]

I saw the other thread (https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...ian-Long-Tails), but the links on care are dead, and it was 2013, so I want to know if there is good updated information.

I would like to get one, but want to know how long they get--I don't want to have to feed it rabbits eventually, but I would like it to be able to handle large rats when fully grown...

If the conditions are terribly different from ball pythons...

and any other information you have. I'm having trouble finding info through ol' Google.

There are a few in stock from lllreptile... I'm interested in a female one.

[GoldSheep]

No one knows if the conditions for Boa c. Longicauda have updated? It's not listed in the FAQ either. The last report I read is that they get to a max of 6 feet?

[Sauzo]

First off, no boa has to be fed rabbits. Any of them will do fine on large rats their whole life unless you get some mutant female BCC.

Second off, I would imagine their care would be the same as most south American boas. Mid to high 70s cool side, 88-90F hot spot and about 70-80% humidity. You can also just look up the average temps for Peru and go off that too.

Third off, I have heard if you buy from LLL, be prepared to get a 2 for 1 pet deal. You get a snake AND mites as a bonus pet. Also i'm not sure I would trust them for a more obscure species. I would go through a reputable breeder like Cutting Edge Herps or Legacy Reptiles.

[GoldSheep]

First off, no boa has to be fed rabbits. Any of them will do fine on large rats their whole life unless you get some mutant female BCC.

Second off, I would imagine their care would be the same as most south American boas. Mid to high 70s cool side, 88-90F hot spot and about 70-80% humidity. You can also just look up the average temps for Peru and go off that too.

Third off, I have heard if you buy from LLL, be prepared to get a 2 for 1 pet deal. You get a snake AND mites as a bonus pet. Also i'm not sure I would trust them for a more obscure species. I would go through a reputable breeder like Cutting Edge Herps or Legacy Reptiles.

Thanks, but neither have animals currently available. Do you know a breeder that would have animals available?

[Sauzo]

Thanks, but neither have animals currently available. Do you know a breeder that would have animals available?

Not off hand. Never really looked into those. You can post a 'want to buy' thread on Kingsnake.com and FaunaClassifieds.com and see what you get. You probably wont really have much luck until late spring as it seems a lot more babies pop up around that time.

You can also join FB sites like Boa Constrictor Keeper and Boa Constrictor Aficionado and ask there. Might have some luck.

[GoldSheep]

Just for general information about Cutting Edge Herps and Long tailed Boas, Vin said that he only sells in pairs and before birth. Total cost would be 500 dollars. He does not sell high red ones... so you would be buying sight unseen.

[ladywhipple02]

Just for general information about Cutting Edge Herps and Long tailed Boas, Vin said that he only sells in pairs and before birth. Total cost would be 500 dollars. He does not sell high red ones... so you would be buying sight unseen.

And coming from him, I would be totally okay with that.

According to Kingsnake, Outback Reptiles has a couple for sale, or did as of December 15. I don't see them on the website, but they was asking $750 for a pair.

[GoldSheep]

I just want 1 female...

Is living legless reputable? I don't see any reviews about them either way.

[Sauzo]

Never heard of Living legless so don't know and Outback Reptiles I believe is like LLL. They are all just middlemen resellers. And as for buying sight unseen, with Cutting Edge herp and Legacy Reptile, you can pretty much know you are going to get what you pay for. That's why I referred you to them first.

[CloudtheBoa]

BCL can get up to 7' long, but they are much much thinner-bodied than most boa constrictor species/subspecies so they wouldn't seem as big.

Boas 6'+ can eat rabbits if that's what you want to do, but I wouldn't consider it necessary until they're about 8'. Then you'd do a mix of large rats and rabbits, as rabbits by themselves are too much food and large rats by themselves are too little. I would honestly not go to xl or jumbos whatsoever, as even spaced apart boas gain a ton of weight on them. My newest female is maybe 7' and has been eating xl/jumbo rats once every 1-2 months and she's still like 4+ lbs heavier than she was when she got gravid last year. She's currently 13.5 lbs and was 9.2 lbs last year around the time she was bred. That was a few months before she was bred but there's no weight records taken when she was actually bred so she may have been close to 10 lbs at the actual time of breeding, and she was 10 lbs just a few months after giving birth. She normally eats a regular large rat every 1-2 months but her breeder wanted her back up to weight to be bred this year, I'm going to put her back on regular larges as the earliest I'll breed her is next fall/winter. So, as you can see, they really gain weight quickly on the bigger rats.

After reading through Vin Russo's section on BCL in The Complete Boa Constrictor, care seems very similar to most other boas, but he does mention keeping them a little dryer than his other species. I'm assuming 50-60% as it wasn't mentioned directly, but I'm sure they could be kept at the usual 70-80% with little troubles, especially if you don't plan on breeding.