thank you cloud!! I plan on doing some handling sessions on a regular basis but not to often. I tried yesterday with her like I said but she wasent having it I mean no hissing or snapping she was just coiled back waiting to strike while NEVER taking her eyes off me lol and everytime I moved I could feel her whole body tense up but she was also flicking her tongue so idk really what that meant lol... iv never handled a snake that acted like that so it did kinda startle me.... I mean when they act like that what do you do.. do you stand very still like a statue like I didor what? I only have two hides in the cage and a big fake vine as well and a that branch looking thing that she loves to climb on but for the most part she stays under the substrate (aspen) with just her head poking out so she can see what is going on