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Re: handling- I screwed up
 Originally Posted by Macropodus
Well, KMG, if you have to ask the question then you probably won't understand the answer. The short answer is cause I want to. We could stop here, but I'm waiting for the rain to let up a bit before we take out the garbage and pick up the mail.
We keep pet snakes, not DNA coiled up in drawers waiting to be proved out. Our enclosures consist of 10, 20, and 40 gallon tanks with high visibility and so we are aware of when snakes venture from their hides. We then can take them out for handling, feeding, and maintenance.
Hope this helps, and sorry to hear about your difficulty understanding, lack of imagination, and your bloody circuses - hopefully your situation will improve. If it's any consolation I'll give you a bow for your "useful post" 
Wow, that was a really nice response. I can see you are going to be a true asset to the forum.
I asked a simple question but I see there is no simple answer. "Cause I want to" is a great answer though and certainly is doing what is best for your collection. Step outside the world of docile Ball Pythons and get a snake like the ones in my collection. I bet you will no longer "want to" feed that way.
Except when feeding live it is not the recommended method and is only asking for trouble. Not to mention the complete waste of time and energy.
I hope your response to me at least made you feel better.
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Re: handling- I screwed up
I'm with you KMG. There's no way I could try to move my large bull snakes or carpets when they're in feeding mode. That's just asking to get tagged. I definitely couldn't imagine trying that with your Bloods or GTP. Like you said not to mention the waste of time and energy. To each his/her own though .
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Re: handling- I screwed up
 Originally Posted by KMG
Wow, that was a really nice response. I can see you are going to be a true asset to the forum.
I asked a simple question but I see there is no simple answer. "Cause I want to" is a great answer though and certainly is doing what is best for your collection. Step outside the world of docile Ball Pythons and get a snake like the ones in my collection. I bet you will no longer "want to" feed that way.
Except when feeding live it is not the recommended method and is only asking for trouble. Not to mention the complete waste of time and energy.
I hope your response to me at least made you feel better.
Macropodus is quite combative. It's his way or the highway. he's worse than me! Lol
All humor aside.. it doesn't take "imagination" to realize that the risk of taking a hungry snake out of its home and putting a hungry snake back in is increasing the odds of getting tagged. It only takes common sense. And it adds unneeded stress to the snake.
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Re: handling- I screwed up
 Originally Posted by Mangiapane85
Macropodus is quite combative. It's his way or the highway.  he's worse than me! Lol
All humor aside.. it doesn't take "imagination" to realize that the risk of taking a hungry snake out of its home and putting a hungry snake back in is increasing the odds of getting tagged. It only takes common sense. And it adds unneeded stress to the snake.
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They may be my real "opposing force," huh!?!
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sorry it took me so long to get back to you guys! I do remove him from his enclosure for feeding. Why? It started off with me using that time to make proper adjustments to his tank, like I said, I didn't have time to do research before I got him, so things had to be fixed. I use the time he is eating to clean his water bowl, remove fecal matter (if it's visible I remove it right away, but usually it's in one of his hides), and add water to his substrate. When I went into his cage to pull him out, he came out of his hide super fast. My brain must have recognized this as wrong because I was able to avoid getting bit, but not fast enough to avoid him striking at me. I then covered him with a hand towel and picked him up, he was fine and let me do my usual inspection. The only thing that was different this time was feeding was a day later than it has been. I'll have to get better about handling him more and maybe when I have to alter his feeding day, feed him a day earlier instead of a day later.
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If you were handling their food, it's definitely possible he just thought you were food because you smelled like it. That's the first time my corn snake tagged me- when I went to move him(which I no longer do) for eating and I smelled like food.
I admit I do move my new ball when it comes to feeding- when I didn't, he dragged his meal aaaall along his enclosure and got it coated in aspen like it was supposed to be shake 'n bake. So now I move him. I wouldn't do it with a bigger/more aggressive snake(hence not moving my corn, he's bitey as hell) but it works alright for this little guy. I could always just use paper towel instead of aspen but I'm a sucker for how nice the aspen looks.
Last edited by sufficio; 11-30-2016 at 03:02 PM.
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Re: handling- I screwed up
 Originally Posted by sufficio
If you were handling their food, it's definitely possible he just thought you were food because you smelled like it. That's the first time my corn snake tagged me- when I went to move him(which I no longer do) for eating and I smelled like food.
I admit I do move my new ball when it comes to feeding- when I didn't, he dragged his meal aaaall along his enclosure and got it coated in aspen like it was supposed to be shake 'n bake.  So now I move him. I wouldn't do it with a bigger/more aggressive snake(hence not moving my corn, he's bitey as hell) but it works alright for this little guy. I could always just use paper towel instead of aspen but I'm a sucker for how nice the aspen looks.
I feed all mine in their vivs , all on orchid/ reptile bark BUT on temporary pieces of card .
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Re: handling- I screwed up
It's part of the territory. You own a dog, it might bark. You own a cat it might scratch. You own a snake it might snap. Learning how to minimize the possibility of a strike by reading the body language and knowing individual snakes helps but once in a while one will reach out for you. No need to worry
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Re: handling- I screwed up
 Originally Posted by Izzys Keeper
It's part of the territory. You own a dog, it might bark. You own a cat it might scratch. You own a snake it might snap. Learning how to minimize the possibility of a strike by reading the body language and knowing individual snakes helps but once in a while one will reach out for you. No need to worry
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I think that's great advice. I def agree.
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Re: handling- I screwed up
Yes, knowing the individual snake is paramount. Only one of my 7 balls has ever "reached out" for me. She does every time I open her tub. But that's what snake hooks are for. 
That doesn't mean that I don't make sure my hands smell like soap before dealing with the others though.
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