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    Re: Ordering the T8. A little help please..

    Maybe I'll just make sure he has plenty of climbing limbs and such. Or put the shelf on the opposite side as the heat panel maybe? Prolly not tho... just brainstorming.


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    I know. There are many options. I just want to make sure you knew there could be an issue with getting a shelf and planning on a RHP. Half a shelf sounds like a good idea if they can do such a thing.

    I had a King long ago and he climbed often. Im sure yours would mind some climbing stuff either. But you have to realize that being only 12 inches tall is going to really limit any real climbing. For $45 more you could get the T10 which is then the same size except 15 inches tall. I would have done that but Im putting two Bloods in mine so they don't need the headroom.

    15 inches is still a good height to be able to use a RHP but much more than that they are no longer recommended unless it is for an arboreal snake.
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    Re: Ordering the T8. A little help please..

    Quote Originally Posted by KMG View Post
    I know. There are many options. I just want to make sure you knew there could be an issue with getting a shelf and planning on a RHP. Half a shelf sounds like a good idea if they can do such a thing.

    I had a King long ago and he climbed often. Im sure yours would mind some climbing stuff either. But you have to realize that being only 12 inches tall is going to really limit any real climbing. For $45 more you could get the T10 which is then the same size except 15 inches tall. I would have done that but Im putting two Bloods in mine so they don't need the headroom.

    15 inches is still a good height to be able to use a RHP but much more than that they are no longer recommended unless it is for an arboreal snake.
    Awesome. Thanks for all the great advice KMG. I will go ahead and get him the T10. He will take full advantage of the 3 extra inches.

    Hopefully Ali will be able to guide me through what's best for my particular snake. Not that you didn't guide me, but, you know what I'm saying.

    Those pvc cages are expensive though. Nearly double what the AP cages are it seems. Plus, APs are on sale right now.


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    Re: Ordering the T8. A little help please..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mangiapane85 View Post
    Awesome. Thanks for all the great advice KMG. I will go ahead and get him the T10. He will take full advantage of the 3 extra inches.

    Hopefully Ali will be able to guide me through what's best for my particular snake. Not that you didn't guide me, but, you know what I'm saying.

    Those pvc cages are expensive though. Nearly double what the AP cages are it seems. Plus, APs are on sale right now.


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    They seem that way but compare them to the AP arboreal cages and you will see they are actually really well priced when you consider you can get the cage, glass doors, rhp, and perches included. The PVC Cages price also includes shipping. If you look at just the bare cage for PVC Cages it is actually cheaper than most other bare cages.

    Im interested to compare the AP cage to the PVC Cages cage. Right now I only have a AP rack. Im sure I will really like it but I don't know that it is going to beat the PVC Cages cage. The PVC Cage I have right now holds my GTP and it is by far my favorite cage. The quality is awesome and I hope this second one on order brings me as much pleasure as the first.
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    Re: Ordering the T8. A little help please..

    Quote Originally Posted by Mangiapane85 View Post
    Thank you so much guys! So the flexwatt is the only option I have for heating through them? I'm thinking a RHP would be better to just bump up the ambient since he doesn't really need a hotspot. Just a warm side. Guess I could buy my own and put it in. So all of the cages come pre-machined with the temp probe channels?

    And I wish they could make it switch between LED colors cuz I'd love a nighttime type color for him like Gio has in his enclosures, but since they don't, I'll have to go with the white. BigSAK is actually the member that I was thinking of. He's the one that's gotten me hooked on the LED thing. It just looks so vivid and bright and gorgeous.

    But yes, I will definitely be calling them Monday morning and setting everything up. I can't freaking WAIT!!


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    You can have AP install the RHP for you if you want. You have to have it drop shipped to them from whoever you get it from be it Pro Products or RBI. Ask Ali about it when you call her.

    As for lighting, I use white light too. I have them all set to a single timer that automatically turns them on at 8am and off at 9pm.

    Grats and you will love the cage. One tip though. They send you lexel sealant which so far is pretty awesome and I think better than silicone but you need to give it a lot longer cure time. My advice is let it cure for 4-5 days before you put the snake in.

    And also, here is what the white light looks like if you don't remember. You can also see the shelf that I opted to have them install. Its 8" deep.
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    Woops guess I missed some of the thread lol. You can mount a RHP with a shelf. I talked to Ali about it and she said probably the best idea would be mount it forward of the shelf as the shelf is 8". The cage is 24" and the rhp is 12". So that should still leave 4" of free air for the shelf. Then butt it against cage side and drill a hole out the side for the wiring since I didn't want to cable clamp the wiring above the shelf and the led lighting. This was if I installed it myself. Like I said, if you have it drop shipped to AP, they can probably mount it the same way but don't need to butt it against the cage wall as they can just drill a hole through the roof and route a channel for the wiring like they do with the led lighting. That was you still have a clean flush top that you can stack cages if you want to. But like I said, talk to Ali and ask her what the best way to do it is. They have done tons of custom cages so they should have lots of good ideas.

    And for sure go for the T10. The extra 3" is nice for getting into the cage and your BP will make use of it. My BP loved her shelf until I poached the cage for my retic lol. But i'll give her a T10 back when I order Rosey and Vicky their T25s and then see if Caesar needs one too.
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    Re: Ordering the T8. A little help please..

    Seems everyone has hit all the main points here. Just to add my 2 cents I had AP cut the channel for the LEDs and put a remote controlled color changing strip in that I got off eBay for like $15. Definitely worth it if your interested in day and night time viewing options.


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    Re: Ordering the T8. A little help please..

    Quote Originally Posted by Sauzo View Post
    Woops guess I missed some of the thread lol. You can mount a RHP with a shelf. I talked to Ali about it and she said probably the best idea would be mount it forward of the shelf as the shelf is 8". The cage is 24" and the rhp is 12". So that should still leave 4" of free air for the shelf. Then butt it against cage side and drill a hole out the side for the wiring since I didn't want to cable clamp the wiring above the shelf and the led lighting. This was if I installed it myself. Like I said, if you have it drop shipped to AP, they can probably mount it the same way but don't need to butt it against the cage wall as they can just drill a hole through the roof and route a channel for the wiring like they do with the led lighting. That was you still have a clean flush top that you can stack cages if you want to. But like I said, talk to Ali and ask her what the best way to do it is. They have done tons of custom cages so they should have lots of good ideas.

    And for sure go for the T10. The extra 3" is nice for getting into the cage and your BP will make use of it. My BP loved her shelf until I poached the cage for my retic lol. But i'll give her a T10 back when I order Rosey and Vicky their T25s and then see if Caesar needs one too.
    Seems pretty logical about the RHP in front of the shelf. Thanks for your input man.

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    Re: Ordering the T8. A little help please..

    UPDATE: Just got off the phone with Ali about an hour ago.

    The T10 is ordered. It will have a shelf in the back left (facing the cage ). The RHP I ordered from Bob at Pro Products will be in front of it. According to him, only about 3 inches will be overlapping with the length of the shelf.

    The cage itself is the t10 with sliding glass doors in white. I see all the black ones but I wanted to go against the grain. There will be TWO channels made for two separate LED strips. One in white for day, one red for nighttime. 10-12 weeks out for t10s right now. Sucks, but oh well. 330 shipped. A little more than I anticipated but it will be well worth it.

    Can't wait!!


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    Grats man. I would plan for 12 weeks lol. Took 13 weeks to get mine but well worth it. I'm assuming you are having Bob drop ship that RHP to AP so they can install it and route the channel for the cord?
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