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    Re: Is this OK?

    When i kept my ball pythons in tanks i used "versa tops" on all them. It's a glass top that folds and comes with a plastic attachment that clips and slides onto the glass. You have to make ventilation holes in the plastic part. It's a great tool and will not only fix humidity issues but it will contribute to overall ambient temperatures. They are sold at Petland , Petco, and Petsmart. Whatever the gallon capacity of your tank you ask for the corresponding sized "versa top".
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    Re: Is this OK?

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    So you're saying prolonged condensation is a normal and acceptable thing??
    Yes

    Quote Originally Posted by Mangiapane85 View Post
    How much of a temperature difference are we talking here? My snake room stays at 78 but the warm end of the tubs in the rack are 90. And I never experience condensation.
    When I am not heating the room the ambient is between 70 and 75 while my hot spots are between 88 to 90 degrees, shaved aspen bedding and dog bowl water bowls.

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    Re: Is this OK?

    Quote Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    Yes


    When I am not heating the room the ambient is between 70 and 75 while my hot spots are between 88 to 90 degrees, shaved aspen bedding and dog bowl water bowls.
    Hmmmm... everything else that I've read and been told is that if there is condensation, that's a key indicator that more ventilation is needed. ... and if there is condensation, it's almost a for sure thing that the humidity is way higher than 60 or even 70 percent. So now all of a sudden, the caresheets are all wrong too?

    I understand misting or something that can creat condensation for a few hours, but you're saying that condensation as a constant, is completely fine?? I'm really confused now.


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    No one said at a CONSTANT.....
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    Im saying dont worry about it when it drops in a couple days.

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    Re: Is this OK?

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Clark View Post
    When i kept my ball pythons in tanks i used "versa tops" on all them. It's a glass top that folds and comes with a plastic attachment that clips and slides onto the glass. You have to make ventilation holes in the plastic part. It's a great tool and will not only fix humidity issues but it will contribute to overall ambient temperatures. They are sold at Petland , Petco, and Petsmart. Whatever the gallon capacity of your tank you ask for the corresponding sized "versa top".
    We use versa tops for our fish aquariums. Have you tried using a heat lamp with versa tops? The OP's photos show heat lamps. I think versa tops limit the heat source to tape or pads.

    So you used to keep pythons in tanks but now in ... racks? Could you elaborate as to why and the major differences?

    Snake behavior?

    I'd imagine cost could be an advantage for some DIY racks, but I've also seen BoaPhiles that are more expensive vs tanks.

    Ease of cleaning?

    Ease of maintaining heat/humidity?

    I'm sure space is the biggest advantage. I'm impressed with this photo of 36 adult sized tubs: http://www.boaphileplastics.com/Rhin...ing_a_ball.jpg
    those are 34" long tubs, almost as long as a 40gallon tank.

    I'd imagine breeding is easier with use of a thermostat which means racks too.

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    Re: Is this OK?

    Quote Originally Posted by Macropodus View Post
    We use versa tops for our fish aquariums. Have you tried using a heat lamp with versa tops? The OP's photos show heat lamps. I think versa tops limit the heat source to tape or pads.

    So you used to keep pythons in tanks but now in ... racks? Could you elaborate as to why and the major differences?

    Snake behavior?

    I'd imagine cost could be an advantage for some DIY racks, but I've also seen BoaPhiles that are more expensive vs tanks.

    Ease of cleaning?

    Ease of maintaining heat/humidity?

    I'm sure space is the biggest advantage. I'm impressed with this photo of 36 adult sized tubs: http://www.boaphileplastics.com/Rhin...ing_a_ball.jpg
    those are 34" long tubs, almost as long as a 40gallon tank.

    I'd imagine breeding is easier with use of a thermostat which means racks too.
    . Versa tops would eliminate the need for heat lamp as they increase ambient temps in a terrarium setting. Unless you just want better visibility of the animal in the terrarium you could certainly use just a daylight or incandescent bulb.
    As far as differences of tanks vs racks, tanks really are for fish as it's problematic maintaining both humidity and heat. Certainly as my collection grew and space became a issue it was apparent I had to go in a different direction. I invested in C serpents racks initially but Reptile basics racks are competitive and probably more affordable.
    Ease of cleaning is straightforward.
    Heat /humidity incomparable to tanks
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    Re: Is this OK?

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Clark View Post
    . Versa tops would eliminate the need for heat lamp as they increase ambient temps in a terrarium setting. Unless you just want better visibility of the animal in the terrarium you could certainly use just a daylight or incandescent bulb.
    As far as differences of tanks vs racks, tanks really are for fish as it's problematic maintaining both humidity and heat. Certainly as my collection grew and space became a issue it was apparent I had to go in a different direction. I invested in C serpents racks initially but Reptile basics racks are competitive and probably more affordable.
    Ease of cleaning is straightforward.
    Heat /humidity incomparable to tanks
    Preach brotha, PREACH. Lol

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    My adults humidity dropped to 67% but she made fog after slithering over her bedding, over the water bowl and against her glass. She's in her tree now, waiting for food. (Tomorrow is feeding day.)
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    Re: Is this OK?

    Quote Originally Posted by Yzmasmom View Post
    My adults humidity dropped to 67% but she made fog after slithering over her bedding, over the water bowl and against her glass. She's in her tree now, waiting for food. (Tomorrow is feeding day.)
    Yz, are you using any other heating fixtures or solely going with the lamp heat? Ie, heat pad?
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    She has a heat pad run by a thermostat and the heat lamps just boost the basking side to 90 (I keep the thermostat a bit lower because I'm afraid of burns,) and on the cold side to keep it at 80, because it's below 75 with no lamp. I'm assuming with a 90 hot side and 80 cold side, her ambient temps are proper.
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