Pet Owner vs Breeding

[KingWheatley]

If you look on any website for info, you get different answers from each site. Just like you get different answers from each person. When trying to figure out how much and how often to feed Yzma, I asked her breeder and a few people on here via PM as well as making a thread. Then, I took that info and applied it to what works for my snake. Is she losing weight with how I'm feeding? Is she gaining too much? Is it causing periodic fasts? Trial and error. You just have to take all of the info and do what works for your snake. Many people said feeding her a medium rat once a week would cause her to go on fasts and I need to go to either a small rat or a medium every 14 days. Some said as long as it's a medium under a certain weight, it's fine. If she fasts, try every 14 days. I had to take everyone's opinions and think about them and then see what worked for Yzma. And, maybe it won't work in future. Things change.
Same for handling.... it makes sense that you woukdnt want to stress them, so, you go by how tour snak reacts. Some may only tolerate a few times a week and some, every day.
It makes sense to have a hut on each side of the tank, but maybe, for some snakes, one hide works. But I digress - my point is, ask 10 people and get 10 answers. None are necessarily wrong or better. Owning an animal means we learn constantly, even the experts. We research, learn, apply and help others where we can. If our answers differ from someone else's, that's ok, as long as something isn't being done that can hurt the animal.

Well put.

I suppose this is what happens when behavior studies favor animals like dogs and cats. I've yet to find an in-depth captive related study on snakes. Or pythons.


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[KingWheatley]

You really should stop trying to give advice until you actually have experience and knowledge to back up what you say, period. Your snake apparently tells you when it's hungry. You introduce your snake to your pet what was it, dog or cat and that was nearly a disaster. Luckily by the grace of God nothing was seriously hurt. Then you do things you think are right instead of using the search function or wait for a reply. Enough is enough.

Ok, you know what? I'll bite. I'll break the ignore list JUST long enough to laugh at this.

My snake doesn't TALK. *eye roll* Never did I claim such a thing.

What I did say is IF YOU PAY ATTENTION TO THEIR BODY LANGUAGE SOMETIMES YOU CAN TELL IF THEY NEED SOMETHING.

For example, if they are hunting, they are hungry. If they are exploring, they are stressed and looking for another hide. How to tell the difference between the two are still beyond me, however reading body language is important to the care of any animal. -_-

Derp.


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[KingWheatley]

You live with your snake long enough, you learn about him/her.

I come here to ask a question, and to be honest, I get helpful information and then opinionated comments fueled by nothing more than "it worked for me so it's the only way" and then the following "it worked for them so it's the only way."


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[PitOnTheProwl]

If you aren't going to believe anything anybody suggests to you, why ask anything at all?

The bottom line right here.

For the most part everyone here tries to be as helpful as they can.
When the complaints start or the "we don't know what we are doing" comments.......
Guess what I have you/posted once already..... There is more knowledge from members on this forum than most vvets have with reptiles.
But what do we know, all we can do is sit back and watch.

[Eric Alan]

We don't need to agree about every topic in order to be friendly and respectful towards each other.

If anyone is unable to separate "critiquing the idea" and "attacking the person" in their posts/responses, feel free to contact me and we can discuss privately. I have removed several off-topic posts that crossed this line. A few other posts flirt with this line, but are staying as is so long as we are able to stay respectful and on-topic going forward. As we do so, please keep in mind the mission of this site: To be "The friendliest online community for ALL your herping needs!"

Best regards,
Eric

[Kreature]

The bottom line right here.

For the most part everyone here tries to be as helpful as they can.
When the complaints start or the "we don't know what we are doing" comments.......
Guess what I have you/posted once already..... There is more knowledge from members on this forum than most vvets have with reptiles.
But what do we know, all we can do is sit back and watch.

Those members should go to college for Veterinary work and open a herp-specific Veterinary service then!

[Kreature]

You live with your snake long enough, you learn about him/her.

I come here to ask a question, and to be honest, I get helpful information and then opinionated comments fueled by nothing more than "it worked for me so it's the only way" and then the following "it worked for them so it's the only way."


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I think you might be misreading.

Don't take this the wrong way... I do not mean this negatively. But I have seen a lot of your posts, as a lot of your threads bubble up to the top for some reason.

Maybe one or two people will say something truly rude to you, then it seems like everyone after that gets attacked by you and shut out no matter what is being said. I don't think you are doing this intentionally, but I do think maybe you should take a step back from the screen and wait before responding at all when you get upset. The internet isn't a good place for emotion, for obvious reasons.

[shadow reaper]

You live with your snake long enough, you learn about him/her.

Not to get involved in this drama, but you joined this site only a week or two before me and, correct me if I'm wrong, you were a new snake owner.

These snakes grow and mature and live for 30 some years, I'm not sure if you reach familiar status after a month. I've given some advice in my short time here, but I'm still new to all this. I've got a pretty good read on my little noodle, but there is always something that makes me hit the interwebs for some quick research. I can understand the "take it with a grain of salt" attitude, but most advice from this community is pretty solid. There is a fine line between healthy skepticism and ignoring solid advice.

[KingWheatley]

I think you might be misreading.

Don't take this the wrong way... I do not mean this negatively. But I have seen a lot of your posts, as a lot of your threads bubble up to the top for some reason.

Maybe one or two people will say something truly rude to you, then it seems like everyone after that gets attacked by you and shut out no matter what is being said. I don't think you are doing this intentionally, but I do think maybe you should take a step back from the screen and wait before responding at all when you get upset. The internet isn't a good place for emotion, for obvious reasons.

I'm not misreading. I've been doing nothing else besides work and sleep other than studying my ball python constantly, reading books, reading ANYTHING I can find.

And it's as mixed as it is online. It's either that the right answer is out there but buried under opinion or there isn't one right answer but SO MANY. It's making my head spin.

When I come online I hope for friendly advice, instead I get treated like "oh look, another noob asking the same questions."

The reason those questions keep getting asked is easily because of this mess of information. Sure, google will help you search up 10 billion ways to do something, BUT WHICH ONE IS CORRECT?

I pick one out, suddenly it's "oh your husbandry is wrong." "You're killing your snake." Blah blah blah.


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[KingWheatley]

Not to get involved in this drama, but you joined this site only a week or two before me and, correct me if I'm wrong, you were a new snake owner.

These snakes grow and mature and live for 30 some years, I'm not sure if you reach familiar status after a month. I've given some advice in my short time here, but I'm still new to all this. I've got a pretty good read on my little noodle, but there is always something that makes me hit the interwebs for some quick research. I can understand the "take it with a grain of salt" attitude, but most advice from this community is pretty solid. There is a fine line between healthy skepticism and ignoring solid advice.

Please link me "solid advice" that I actually ignored that was offered that wasn't mixed with condescending attitudes and emotions. :/


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