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[KingWheatley]

First a lot of antropomorphism here in this thread.

BP do not go on schedule they go when they need too, it can be once a week, or once a month or every other month it varies on the individual and has no incidence on whether the animal can eat or not.

BP are VERY efficient whatever is not used as fuel or for growth is eliminated it's that simple, there is no avoiding doing it in it's tank just like there is no "not wanting anything to do with you".

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Yea, no. Sorry, but you and seven-thirty are incorrect. He is not stressed out. he eats just fine and he is in good health per the vet. I'll trust his word as a professional over someone spouting what they THINK is correct. :3 Wheatley is perfectly fine, and to top it off you're wrong about snakes not having emotions. Fear and stress are both emotions.

You guys should really check out 1softkiss. But I bet you won't, because neither of you like being wrong.

I can't say a I blame you. What you do isn't wrong in of itself, but my little Wheatley is perfectly healthy, is a good weight, eats just fine, and does not show signs of stress. And this is all PER THE VET!

[KingWheatley]

To answer your question, no - not normal. It is normal, though, for new keepers to think they should relieve themselves on a schedule. Animals will relieve themselves in stressful situations. All of the signs you're pointing out could be his way of saying "that's too much for me right now".

If I were you, I'd basically ignore his bathroom habits and how they relate to his feeding schedule. BP metabolism is completely different than our own and if you try to anthropomorphize him, you'll end up getting frustrated. In short, he'll go when he needs to.

Feed him an appropriately sized meal every 4-5 days until he's big enough for small rats. Then you can back down to every 7 days. When he's being fed the right amount of food at the right time, he'll go the right amount. Simple as that.

What weight would be "big enough" for the "small" rats from petsmart? I'd order online but I don't know how they'd keep it frozen. I've seen some of the shipping facilities (I've worked at several) and the refrigerated/freezer trailers tend to fail quite frequently...? Unless they package them differently?

Do you have a favorite seller for feeder rodents?

[SiXandSeven8ths]

So, because he doesn't show any other sign of stress, the fact he is pooping in one certain location at one certain time and refuses to mess his tank is a sign of stress?

Based on the other things you detailed in your first post, quite possibly, yes.

[Stewart_Reptiles]

Yea, no. Sorry, but you and seven-thirty are incorrect. He is not stressed out. he eats just fine and he is in good health per the vet. I'll trust his word as a professional over someone spouting what they THINK is correct. :3 Wheatley is perfectly fine, and to top it off you're wrong about snakes not having emotions. Fear and stress are both emotions.

You guys should really check out 1softkiss. But I bet you won't, because neither of you like being wrong.

I can't say a I blame you. What you do isn't wrong in of itself, but my little Wheatley is perfectly healthy, is a good weight, eats just fine, and does not show signs of stress. And this is all PER THE VET!

No idea what that has to do with anything oh well, and yeah I know soft kiss she has been around a long time on small forums no one cares about with people that have limited knowledge, if that is your reference and the example you want to follow well ok, the one eyed leading the blind .

BTW she is no professional breeder trust me.

Wonder why you keep asking questions here since people who are knowledgeable and experienced apparently know nothing (just like with your so called "Spider" people were so wrong because your breeder friend said it was a spider right?)

Must be nice to have 1 snakes for 1 month and know it all, if you can't handle the answers or are not willing to follow advice why bother asking.

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[KingWheatley]

No idea what that has to do with anything oh well, and yeah I know soft kiss she has been around a long time on small forums no one cares about with people that have limited knowledge, if that is your reference and the example you want to follow well ok, the one eyed leading the blind .

BTW she is no professional breeder trust me.

Wonder why you keep asking question here since people who are knowledgeable and experienced apparently know nothing (just like with your so called "Spider" people were so wrong because your breeder friend said it was a spider right?)

Must be nice to have 1 snakes for 1 month and know it all, if you can handle the answers or are not willing to ask my advice don't bother asking.

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Maybe this might come as a surprise to you, but i wasn't asking for your advice. I was asking people who actually take the time to get to know their pets as pets.

i honestly don't care much for you. Even if you had good information, you are rude, derogatory, and you do your best to bully people who actually know better about their pets and actually take the time to bond with them off the site. Anyone else is wrong but you. Oh trust me, you and your fellow "read something and preach it like you know everything" are actually quite infamous off site. Problem is this is the larger forum, because the majority of BP owners type in "ball python" and ball python is the name of this forum, which has been around longer than most.

so do me and yourself a favor and just stop talking to me? You aren't very professional as a mod, and to be honest, it speaks for the site itself when someone as rude, self-worshiping and "know-it-all" like yourself is in charge of anything.

[KingWheatley]

Oh, but it's a crime to have a different opinion, not agree with you. So instead of simply letting things go, you continue to attack on any other question being asked.

youve preached that emotions do not exist in snakes, because some supposed research was done saying that snakes lack the part of the brain we use for emotions? And yet... somehow they still experience stress. Which is an emotion. Same as terror. Same as enjoyment of a certain food item.

its pathetic how misinformed you actually are on certain things, and you treat other people like absolute crap for having a different opinion than your "all-knowing" one.

seriously.

[Willowy]

What weight would be "big enough" for the "small" rats from petsmart? I'd order online but I don't know how they'd keep it frozen. I've seen some of the shipping facilities (I've worked at several) and the refrigerated/freezer trailers tend to fail quite frequently...? Unless they package them differently?

Do you have a favorite seller for feeder rodents?

The online sellers of frozen rodents ship directly from their freezer facilities, and package the rodents with dry ice. So unless it's super hot in your area, or your box gets lost for several days, keeping it frozen shouldn't be an issue. I like Big Cheese personally.

Do you have a scale? Feeding 10%-15% of his body weight is a good, until he's big enough for small rats (when he's around 750 grams; small rats usually average about 75 grams). Then you just stick with small rats for his entire life.

If he's not big enough for the rats you can get, but still too big for a mouse, you can feed him 2-3 mice. It's more expensive but just as acceptable. Just offer another one once he gets the first one down the hatch.

[KingWheatley]

The online sellers of frozen rodents ship directly from their freezer facilities, and package the rodents with dry ice. So unless it's super hot in your area, or your box gets lost for several days, keeping it frozen shouldn't be an issue. I like Big Cheese personally.

Do you have a scale? Feeding 10%-15% of his body weight is a good, until he's big enough for small rats (when he's around 750 grams; small rats usually average about 75 grams). Then you just stick with small rats for his entire life.

If he's not big enough for the rats you can get, but still too big for a mouse, you can feed him 2-3 mice. It's more expensive but just as acceptable. Just offer another one once he gets the first one down the hatch.

Appreciate the help! Thank you.


so happy to see people actually read whats being asked and answer the question er the question instead of attacking with misinformation over a small detail that is only a supportive detail to a question.

[KingWheatley]

Wow. Mods abusing their powers because someone doesn't agree with them and has supportive evidence behind them?

i shouldn't even be surprised. 😂

[Fraido]

To be honest, there is a difference between being blunt and being rude. Deborah is blunt.

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