Quote Originally Posted by the_rotten1 View Post
You probably wouldn't say that if you knew what it was from.
You hamsteak trash xD Vriskat otp.

Quote Originally Posted by salt View Post
I don't actually have an opinion on this issue but this paper(study?) is the one I keep seeing cited in arguments against spider.
I've read this paper and the conclusion was inconclusive saying that it needed more reasearch and a few of their key points are bases off the thought of, "how would I feel if I where this snake" and anthropomorphizing.
As for the scientific proof needed to prove that it doesnmt affect the animal's life, look around you. The spider is and always has been thriving the same way all other ball pythons do in captivity. They do all the things any other ball python does. Ball pythons are relatively simple creatures who just want to feel safe enough to eat, shed, etc. that's all they want. They don't need anything else. They don't need a branch to climb to "stimulation." They just want to hide and be left alone.