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    Re: Aspen bedding, bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brooke360 View Post
    Woahhh, hey. My vet told me that the oils from that stuff totally throws off their moisture and can be harmful, and clog up their anal passages as well as get into their nasal passages and throat. I would do some more research on that before continuing to use it... Personally, I find that newspaper works wonderfully.
    Plenty of people here use it without issue. I use a mixture of substrates that includes Eco Earth in several of my cages. Until just recently I used Eco Earth alone in my gtp cage and hoggy tank where she burrows all through it without issue.

    As for the anal passages it sounds as if your vet was referring to an impaction which can happen with many substrates if to much is eaten.

    And as for clogging the nostrils I had a big problem with that using some cypress mulch from Lowes. It was given to me but as she rooted around it clogged her nostrils so I threw it out. Using Forest Floor I never had the issue add its much cleaner, uniform, and less dusty.

    Being these post were from 2011 I think that is plenty of time to consider it a good test. Now we just need Tree to ring in.
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    Re: Aspen bedding, bad?

    [QUOTE=snake lab;1649659] Now yes cypress is messy but any organic substrate will get in the water. But cypress is a wood that grows in swamps. It doesnt mold like aspen or pine."

    I'm not very experienced but I have had cypress mulch mold. And yes I was cleaning it

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    Re: Aspen bedding, bad?

    So kiln dried pine is ok? I had been using cyprus mulch but found it would start to grow mold because it was so damp. I tried pine shavings (kiln dried) because it really soaks up the waste and I have it around for my chickens already. THEN read pine is bad so I just put them on newspaper while I search for something better.

    Has anyone tried recycled paper pellets like for cat/animal litter?





    Quote Originally Posted by kitedemon View Post
    No it is unlikely to be an issue.

    I don't believe in blanket statements, there are pros and cons to everything saying this is bad or that is is fine, that is opinion. The fact is nothing anywhere is with out some risk. I don't believe the risk involved with kraft paper is high nor do I believe the risk of Aspen is high, or any other commonly used substrates. Some have more issues than others like pine. I have decided for my self that kiln dried pine offers a relatedly low risk but raw pine is quite high. To my mind there would always be a question of is this kiln dried or not and that question makes it an unacceptable risk. I believe there are issues with Aspen but they do not pose significant risks, the same can be said for papers and coconut products. None have significant risks, it is opinion of how much and how serious that risk is.

    If there were serious risk no one would suggest using it like cedar I have never seen anyone suggest it for keeping snakes on. There is significant risks with it the rest have much debate the fact there is debate suggests the risks are not massive ones. Other wise it would be clear and there would be many many problems associated with it.

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    Re: Aspen bedding, bad?

    Quote Originally Posted by KodiakFox View Post
    So kiln dried pine is ok? I had been using cyprus mulch but found it would start to grow mold because it was so damp. I tried pine shavings (kiln dried) because it really soaks up the waste and I have it around for my chickens already. THEN read pine is bad so I just put them on newspaper while I search for something better.

    Has anyone tried recycled paper pellets like for cat/animal litter?
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    Re: Aspen bedding, bad?

    Because nobody sees it? 😟

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    Re: Aspen bedding, bad?

    I use reptichip. Spot cleans easy, holds humidity, looks good, no mold, no odor, change it about every 3 months. Haven't had any issues with it. Just mist it while in shed and no problems.
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    Re: Aspen bedding, bad?

    Hm and now to find it in canada.

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