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    Re: need help indentifying this

    Quote Originally Posted by bowes View Post
    Again... I would like the questioned answered.
    Quote Originally Posted by Slim View Post
    Yes, it looks like a Butter / Lesser, and could be Hypo. Hard to say with 100% accuracy from that photo.
    Is $120 a good price? If it is what they say it is, then I would say it's a fair price.
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    Re: need help indentifying this

    This is my butter ghost, feel free to compare but it looks similar to me







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    Re: need help indentifying this

    Also from WOB: Butter Ghost (aka Butter Hypo) http://www.worldofballpythons.com/fi...-ghost/001.jpg

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    Re: need help indentifying this

    Quote Originally Posted by bowes View Post
    I don't care who you are. If you're going to respond to my question with a sarcastic remark and critisize where I shop for my snakes and not give me any relative info to my question I will speak to you in the same manner you spoke to me. With that way of thinking snakes would never be bought besides from breeders. Clearly I wasn't asking if I should by from them. Answer the question I asked or leave your comments to youself, or if you want to suggest an alternate route do it respectfully. IDC who Deborah is.
    Welcome to a privately owned PUBLIC forum where YOU came to to ask a question and gain knowledge for YOURSELF.
    Is it a Hypo Butter? Probably....... buying from someone you don't trust (you wouldnt be here asking if you did).
    What if I told you it was a Hypo Lesser?? You as well as all of us will never know.
    You are at the mercy of the seller with the genetics.

    Also you are actually asking if you should but from them otherwise you wouldn't be here asking or clarification on the genetics.

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    Re: need help indentifying this

    Either way 100$ with tank and heater is an okay price for even just a butter. Make sure to be extra careful with the snake though! Watch for RIs and mites and stuff. It's tough to tell if it is actually a butter ghost or a light butter/lesser.

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    Re: need help indentifying this

    Quote Originally Posted by Soord View Post
    It's tough to tell if it is actually a butter ghost or a light butter/lesser.
    There is no question that it is a hypo/ghost. The only question would be if its Lesser or Butter.
    Some people wouldn't care and others with breeding plans would.

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    Re: need help indentifying this

    Quote Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    There is no question that it is a hypo/ghost. The only question would be if its Lesser or Butter.
    Some people wouldn't care and others with breeding plans would.
    With the amount of variation in the butter/lesser genes you can't be 100%. Especially from that picture from a phone in that lighting. As mentioned earlier the breeder isn't reputable. I also mention that it looks like one to me. Also what is the difference? Same gene someone just decided to call it butter somewhere down the line.

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    Re: need help indentifying this

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    It's tough to tell if it is actually a butter ghost or a light butter/lesser.
    This makes it look like you doubt the hypo??

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    Re: need help indentifying this

    Quote Originally Posted by PitOnTheProwl View Post
    This makes it look like you doubt the hypo??
    I meant more that it's tough to tell for sure. I don't doubt it's a hypo and in fact I pulled up on my computer and it looks a lot more like one on a bigger screen. The only reservations I have is that I have a very light butter ghost. I've seen plain butters with very pronounced blushing or light colors in general that have looked pretty similar with a tinge more brown. Take this one for example from WOB.

    Butter http://www.worldofballpythons.com/fi...butter/001.jpg

    Secondly I am very wary of pictures unless they are from different times in different lights. I've seen how much light can change color and feel and the fact that this is a single picture from a person in Craigslist makes me skeptical.

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    Do you want a nice-looking pet? If so, what you see is what you get and that's a pretty good price with supplies and all. I'd be all over that offer. But if you want to breed you should go with proven genetics.

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