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Re: Overfeeding, Or something else?
 Originally Posted by Scottywelsh
No offence to others but IMO this post was totally taken In the wrong direction and there was no need to try and scare you or take such a drastic approach. This is my opinion anyway.
Yeah, this is exactly what I was thinking. I really don't think it's necessary to take the snake to the vet.
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Re: Overfeeding, Or something else?
 Originally Posted by cchardwick
That could also be damage from eating live rats, my mice occasionally will bite my snake right before they pass out from being constricted, makes a small wound that heals up quickly.
I had a small ball python that was only getting fed a small mouse once a month, was really skinny, I'm surprised it survived for so long with so little food. I started feeding it three adult mice all in one sitting. Now he looks better so I cut back to once a week.
Yeah, I had thought about it being the live prey, But we never leave him unsupervised. I always just after he constricts it, and when he shifts around to get a better bite on it. The thing is, is that it wasn't like a surface wound, just the scales were affected.
Before I got him, he had only been eating one medium rat a month, and I'm honestly surprised he was in such an okay health when I acquired him from her. He has such a fast strike after I put the rat into his tank that I just feel like he's famished still. When we first got him, I went ahead and gave him a med rat, but just felt that spending 35 minutes on getting it down was just too much, even though he didn't really seem to struggle that much. He now only spends about 15 minutes once he kills it.
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Re: Overfeeding, Or something else?
 Originally Posted by Fraido
Yeah, this is exactly what I was thinking. I really don't think it's necessary to take the snake to the vet.
Yup no vet. People on here have really good intentions however they can be a little vet happy. If they are unsure of what is going on they fall back on the take it to the vet thing. If I am not really, really sure about something I do not comment (unless i am playing guess the morph). I would rather give no information than wrong information. If the information I am giving is questionable or debatable I try really hard to be clear about that.
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Re: Overfeeding, Or something else?
 Originally Posted by JodanOrNoDan
People on here have really good intentions however they can be a little vet happy.
lol, I think you're probably right, although I suppose it's better than the alternative. On other forums I have seen home remedies for respiratory infections that just made me shudder.
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Re: Overfeeding, Or something else?
 Originally Posted by Holly_Berry
A good way to put it! A few days ago he had gotten stuck in his cork hide he had (key word had). I had noticed them raised after that. So I do believe it was just from that and eating, But I think he's okay now. Thank you for your input on the subject.
OK That would have been good to know. If their hide is too tight it can bend the scales, but I'm not sure it's possible for a snake to bend its own scales simply from coiling.
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Re: Overfeeding, Or something else?
 Originally Posted by dkatz4
lol, I think you're probably right, although I suppose it's better than the alternative. On other forums I have seen home remedies for respiratory infections that just made me shudder.
This. I was going off a blurry picture and using my own personal experience with the information given. Rather than depend on an internet forum I would suggest a herp vet any day of the week. I stand by my responses.
Aaaaanyway, if the scales have smoothed out, it was probably caused by the hide, which sounds like it might be too tight--I had a BP that got coiled so tightly in one of his hides I was unable to get him out until he was ready to come out. Then his scales were pushed up in one section. I followed advice I got here and ditched the hide, and the scales went back to normal... As far as just coiling up by themselves, without being against any surfaces that would restrict the scales, there shouldn't be any lifting. Hides should be small enough to make BPs feel secure, but not necessarily "snug," if that makes sense.
Glad the problem went away! As long as it doesn't resurface and you are comfortable with the feeding schedule he's on, a vet visit isn't necessary.
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Re: Overfeeding, Or something else?
 Originally Posted by O'Mathghamhna
This. I was going off a blurry picture and using my own personal experience with the information given. Rather than depend on an internet forum I would suggest a herp vet any day of the week. I stand by my responses.
Aaaaanyway, if the scales have smoothed out, it was probably caused by the hide, which sounds like it might be too tight--I had a BP that got coiled so tightly in one of his hides I was unable to get him out until he was ready to come out. Then his scales were pushed up in one section. I followed advice I got here and ditched the hide, and the scales went back to normal... As far as just coiling up by themselves, without being against any surfaces that would restrict the scales, there shouldn't be any lifting. Hides should be small enough to make BPs feel secure, but not necessarily "snug," if that makes sense.
Glad the problem went away! As long as it doesn't resurface and you are comfortable with the feeding schedule he's on, a vet visit isn't necessary.
Well and I should have thought of this before but he had one of those cork hides in his enclosure and he got kinda stuck and freaked out. But I took it out after it happened and got some smaller ones than the one he had. But he fits well into them. Thank you for your help. I'll still be taking him to the vet since my brought up a good point of not ever going. And it would make me more comfortable. Again. Thank you.
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Re: Overfeeding, Or something else?
 Originally Posted by Holly_Berry
Well and I should have thought of this before but he had one of those cork hides in his enclosure and he got kinda stuck and freaked out. But I took it out after it happened and got some smaller ones than the one he had. But he fits well into them. Thank you for your help. I'll still be taking him to the vet since my brought up a good point of not ever going. And it would make me more comfortable. Again. Thank you.
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Of course, and sorry for the misdirection. It was certainly not intentional
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Re: Overfeeding, Or something else?
 Originally Posted by O'Mathghamhna
OK That would have been good to know. If their hide is too tight it can bend the scales, but I'm not sure it's possible for a snake to bend its own scales simply from coiling.
When they are bent in a certain way it definitely does happen. It would happen to my boa all the time, she would be laying in a way that would cause a wrinkle and when she straightened out again there would be a line of bent scales.
In the first photo it looks exactly like that. In the second photo it looks like they simply got a little roughed up from trying to get out out of the hide. That's all.
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Re: Overfeeding, Or something else?
 Originally Posted by Fraido
When they are bent in a certain way it definitely does happen. It would happen to my boa all the time, she would be laying in a way that would cause a wrinkle and when she straightened out again there would be a line of bent scales.
In the first photo it looks exactly like that. In the second photo it looks like they simply got a little roughed up from trying to get out out of the hide. That's all.
This .100%.
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