i have to watch my snakes starve as punishment

[butterballpython]

If they won't let you keep them in their freezer, maybe you could find a small refrigerator/freezer to keep in your room. They sell small ones that are only a few cubic feet inside for offices and dorm rooms, and the one I had back in college had a small freezer section. Very small, but enough to store some bags of mice.

[butterballpython]

Your location says Corona, CA. Do they have a city bus system?

[Spiritserpents]

My ball pythons are feeding on hoppers and my corn snake is eating adult mice. The baby spotted is eating pinkies and that's my main worry since its small. Shouldn't that be easy to maintain? I have a pet rabbit so I'm guessing since they're both rodents I can use the same food.

Rabbits are NOT rodents. Mice will not survive on rabbit food. Also, your ball pythons will very shortly be on *rats*. Also also, mice STINK. Even well taken care of mice STINK. Your parents aren't going to like that at all, plus setting them up appropriately is going to cost money.

Rehome one of your snakes. I'm rather horrified that in your initial post you asked how long you had to enjoy them until they died. That rehoming one never entered into your mind and instead you were willing to let them die is very disturbing.

[KillerofGods]

6 miles once a week shouldnt be too bad and a good way to get in good cardio shape. Or It might be a good time to try converting your snakes to F/T. Whe you make a trip to the store you can make e trip worth your while and get enough to last several week. Before putting mice and rats in your freezer I would suggest talking to your parents about it first though, or hide them in the bottom in a bag of stuff nobody wants to cook. Plus they should be fine for a month or two. Though mine do that of their own free will of not eating that long as opposed to me. Though I did have a ball that was aweful bloated after a couple of large meals and decided to give her an extra week to pass it before stuffing her more.


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Well it would be 12 miles for there and back again, if he gets frozen he would want to make sure to get back in time before the mice thaw out. Live mice should survive the journey home just fine though.

@OP Best bet would be to order rodents online, you can get a prepaid visa and use it to order online.

[Nitewolfie]

Look online, like on Craigslist, maybe even FB to see if any one is selling feeders around your area, maybe even make an ad asking if anyone has feeders around you, closer than 6 miles. If you were in my area, I'd help you out since i breed my own feeders, but sadly you're not.
I think some people have had f/t shipped to their houses? Not sure on that..
I'f he brought a cooler or something full of ice, the mice should be fine for a six mile walk for f/t, I think.

[O'Mathghamhna]

There are a few things seriously wrong with this post, but I'll bite anyway:

First of all, all we know is your side of the story. It could be your parents said you aren't allowed to go back to the pet store because you irresponsibly snuck another mouth to feed into the house, despite not having the means to feed that mouth. Your parents may think snakes can eat rabbit food, who knows. I seriously doubt if they are ok with 3 snakes in the house, a 4th would make them want to just starve the whole lot to punish *you*. Doesn't add up.

Second, if you think your parents are pissed for sneaking another snake home, imagine how pissed they will be to find rodents (plural!) in their home? Have you ever even bred rodents before? Probably not, so again, you would be taking on much more responsibility than you are capable of handling, and at the expense of losing what trust you have left with your parents.

Third, you need to realize that the problem in this situation is not your parents. It's you. Your parents were fine with their kid keeping three snakes in their home, which is more than I can say for many grown adult roommates. Judging by your post, you don't drive which means you're either too young or too broke (or maybe disabled?), in which case you owe the care of your pets to your parents, who give you the funding for their food. The deal was that you uphold a simple rule: no more pets (and for a teenager, 3 snakes is PLENTY, so that's not outrageous). You broke that rule, so now you must suffer the consequences. Don't be dramatic and make it seem like your parents are snatching knots in the snakes' necks. If you need to get off your hiney and go buy food for the animals you took into your possession, get walking.

Fourth, for the love of God, you've already posted your full name here (if that's even your name. I'm really hoping you're just a troll), please don't open yourself up to criminal activity by also publishing your city and state. I would maybe take PM inquiries if folks in your area can help you out, but if my kid went to a forum to try to accuse me of animal neglect because he broke one of my rules, and then published his full name and city and state, you would have a lot more than snakes to worry about.

Ahem. Just sayin'. Good luck, and please don't continue to subject any more innocent animals to this situation.

[BeelzeBall.]

Your location says Corona, CA. Do they have a city bus system?

yea they do, i live near it, well corona is a city in riverside county.

[embrit345]

Your parents will pay for snake food but not a drive to the shop?


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[chrid16371]

Yes its a crime but bringing that up to your parents will get you in a world of crap. If it got out of hand then yes I would. Maybe they want to see some responsibility! Jump on your bike or start walking, after you do this a couple times I bet they take you. Do other things around the house, don't wait to be asked.

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[rlditmars]

If this is a troll thread then, "Good one". Assuming this is not a troll thread I will give my opinion.

First, shame on you for acting like an insolent child.

It doesn't sound like you have a bad situation at home. I don't think Child Protective Services would be on your side. Last time I checked, parents that will let you have three snakes but not four, is not considered an abusive home environment. In fact, as many others have stated, it is a bit more than many parents would permit, including my own growing up.

Second, shame on you for playing the victim and making your parents out as the bad guys.

This is wholly on you. The moment you broke their rules, everything that follows is a result of your actions (aftermath). Like a Rube Goldberg Machine you created the cause that affected the change. This idea of "It is better to ask forgiveness than to ask permission" is a seriously misguided paradigm. Rules exist to create a structure in which society can exist for the good of the society, not just the individual. Your parents rules are there to govern the society which is your family. You don't have to understand all of the reasoning behind them, but you are expected to obey them. If they are providing the means for the food and the transportation, then it may be that they simply can't afford the extra cost or the additional time required to house an additional animal. Regardless, with three animals already you should have been grateful, but instead you acted like an ingrate.

Your parents aren't raising a child, they are raising an adult. Someday you will have to go out into the world and try to make it on your own. The rules will be even more demanding and the consequences of breaking the rules will be far more punitive then anything you are experiencing now. In the adult world when you break the rule:

• You could be fired from the job that is feeding your family, providing you housing, and covering your medical bills with insurance.
• You could be arrested and serve time.
• You could be assaulted
• You could be killed or kill others. (see bullet 2)

If you want to fix this then you need to pull up your big boy pants and "Man Up". You can start by apologizing to your parents with as much humility as you can muster and thanking them for the privilege of having been allowed to keep three snakes in the first place. Then I would suggest you ask your parents to help you set up an ad on craigslist offering all of your snakes for rehoming. They need to be involved, if they'll agree, so they can monitor your efforts to actually rehome the animals. Tell them you will keep the add up until two of your animals are rehomed, regardless of if either are one of your favorites or not. Further, your rehoming fees should be very attractive (painful even) so that you will achieve fast results. See, when you are being punished the consequences should cause you to end up at a disadvantage or loss. What is the punishment if you just return to your regularly scheduled program?

Then, and only then, will you be able to "ASK" if they will resume taking you to the store to get the food while you are rehoming them. You messed up and this is on you to fix. You are responsible for the welfare of four animals and they have no options but to rely on you to do the right thing. I hope you do.

Drops the mic, "Ditmars out"