MorphMarket Launches Today

[se7en]

As a point of clarification, I never said it would "crash the market," that's hyperbole on your part. The point I was making is that, while it's clearly beneficial for buyers, does this really benefit sellers? What's the difference between this and what goes on at a show, when someone says "hey, the table next to you has a cinnamon for $20 less than you, do you want drop yours by $20 or want me to buy at the other table?" other than the obvious: now instead of competing with the next table for that sale, you're competing with tables all across the country, with the ability to put all the BPs of the same morph side by side.

Further, I simply do not see how sellers distinguish themselves from one another on morphmarket. Interesting you quote Raphael Martinez, when what he's talking about is marketing yourself and how you are different from other sellers, but morphmarket only minimally allows for that individualism: click the pic, then there's only a minimal blurb on the seller. The one thing that bugs me personally is that it's so hard to find out where the breeder is located: all things being equal (or close to equal), I'd find benefit in finding a breeder closer to me (I know it's easy to ship overnight from coast-to-coast, it's just a personal thing). I wish the breeder had the opportunity to provide a way to set himself or herself apart; I just don't see it here other than the opportunity to click to an external link to the breeder's facebook site.

Don't get me wrong, I love the site, I visit it every day; but as I mentioned before, I'm not a seller. If breeders think it's a good thing to compete this head-to-head in a craigslist-style market, then everyone is a winner. Generally, increased competition decreases prices. If morphmarket increases sales, perhaps it offsets even the possibility of prices decreasing. It's not my business, I was just raising a question for those whose business is ball pythons. For me, I just enjoy ball pythons.

ecomonics are sometimes so hard to predict.

[OhhWatALoser]

As a point of clarification, I never said it would "crash the market," that's hyperbole on your part. The point I was making is that, while it's clearly beneficial for buyers, does this really benefit sellers? What's the difference between this and what goes on at a show, when someone says "hey, the table next to you has a cinnamon for $20 less than you, do you want drop yours by $20 or want me to buy at the other table?" other than the obvious: now instead of competing with the next table for that sale, you're competing with tables all across the country, with the ability to put all the BPs of the same morph side by side.

You again are acting like these are ipads. Not one single animal is the same. I vend every month and have never felt other tables had any bearing over my sales. If he is selling for 20 bucks less and my bottom number is 20 bucks more, well go buy from him, I'll sell to the person who wants to pay that much.

Further, I simply do not see how sellers distinguish themselves from one another on morphmarket. Interesting you quote Raphael Martinez, when what he's talking about is marketing yourself and how you are different from other sellers, but morphmarket only minimally allows for that individualism: click the pic, then there's only a minimal blurb on the seller. The one thing that bugs me personally is that it's so hard to find out where the breeder is located: all things being equal (or close to equal), I'd find benefit in finding a breeder closer to me (I know it's easy to ship overnight from coast-to-coast, it's just a personal thing). I wish the breeder had the opportunity to provide a way to set himself or herself apart; I just don't see it here other than the opportunity to click to an external link to the breeder's facebook site.

He has already said feature like this would be added.

Generally, increased competition decreases prices.

Only when prices are already inflated for the market.

[jplehmann]

Hi @hanzo,

> As a point of clarification, I never said it would "crash the market," that's hyperbole on your part.

Yes, I know it was. That's also why I wouldn't have put your name there as if it was verbatim. But it's the same discussion.

I'm not going to add much to what I said before regarding the economics, but wanted to follow-up on a couple things:

> I simply do not see how sellers distinguish themselves from one another on morphmarket. Interesting you quote Raphael Martinez, when what he's talking about is marketing yourself and how you are different from other sellers, but morphmarket only minimally allows for that individualism: click the pic, then there's only a minimal blurb on the seller.

More features coming. But, this will always be a burden on the seller regardless of fanciness features. They have a chance to really describe themselves and their policies, as well as the specific animal. Some take advantage of that with elaborate descriptions, and others just put a sentence, or nothing.

> The one thing that bugs me personally is that it's so hard to find out where the breeder is located

From an ad, all you have to do is click on the breeder name and their profile will show you country, state, city, AND whether they allow local pickup, ship nationally, or export. This is key because breeders even in your town might still require shipping.

> I'd find benefit in finding a breeder closer to me (I know it's easy to ship overnight from coast-to-coast, it's just a personal thing).

Totally understand this. I aim to add "local search" so you could do exactly that. Currently you can search only by country (otherwise it'd be unusable to non-US). This will be more useful as the market grows.

> I was just raising a question for those whose business is ball pythons.

From all my interactions, breeders don't share this concern. Like you said, they're used to having to compete "table by table".

> Don't get me wrong, I love the site, I visit it every day

Thank you! Love hearing that, and please know that your questions have been/are welcome. Never felt defensive about this and hopefully haven't come off that way either. Just glad to discuss it.

John

PS if admins are feeling edgy about the ongoing convo in this thread, please let us know how to comply. I sure hope this thread wouldn't get deleted, but I would be fine if it were "frozen".

[Mr. Misha]

Briefly checked out the site. I like it! Good job to the developer. What are the posting fees?

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[OhhWatALoser]

Briefly checked out the site. I like it! Good job to the developer. What are the posting fees?

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