Is live feeding really that bad?

[h00blah]

Why would she need protective gear she feeds both live and f/t and gave a educated opinion. ..you my friend have not

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I'm a He . Thanks though! I understood what Zincubus meant . It's one of those topics that will never be resolved one way or the other. Some people really get bent out of shape when you don't do things the way they do them, even if either way works .

[Ax01]

ice cream. cone or cup? discuss.

how about this?

Why would she need protective gear she feeds both live and f/t and gave a educated opinion. ..you my friend have not

I'm a He . Thanks though! I understood what Zincubus meant . It's one of those topics that will never be resolved one way or the other. Some people really get bent out of shape when you don't do things the way they do them, even if either way works .

h00blah does have long flowing hair tho, so it might be easy to confuse. lol

[se7en]

how about this?

:o :o :o

[Aercadia]

LMAO @ the ratsicle!! The legs look like drumsticks... you just gave me a great idea on what to give the puppies for a Thanksgiving treat! X3

[Ax01]

remember pizza rat making the news a week back?

well, before that there was ice cream rat.

[h00blah]

h00blah does have long flowing hair tho, so it might be easy to confuse. lol

Wrong again!! I chopped it off ...

[PitOnTheProwl]

Wrong again!! I chopped it off ...

But you gots some sexxxy snakes.

[Gio]

With all due respect their prey are not always fighting for their lives in an extremely confined space ....

I could probably survive ok if Mike Tyson was chasing me around a soccer stadium but if we were stuck together in a small room he'd rip my head off .

This is less about the "debate" than it is the quote. The quote seems to lead folks to believe a "confined" cage area is vastly different from the typical situation in the wild and is somehow unfair to the prey.

Outside of the obvious differences, the prey is doomed in the wild just as it is in the caged environment. If the snake is hungry and prey presents itself, it is a done deal.

Snakes don't set themselves up to fail. The term "Ambush predator" means just that. The prey has almost zero chance of escape once the snake has launched the attack. How often have you seen captive, live prey break away from the coils and make a run for it? It doesn't happen in a cage, and it doesn't happen in the wild.

The royal python actually thrives in "confined spaces". The rodent burrows they inhabit used to have occupants prior to their arrival. What do you think may have happened there?

With few exceptions, snakes ambush in rather confined areas and will sit and wait motionless for weeks sometimes months until they succeed.

Their periods of famine are not due to failure of the hunt, but rather lack of prey in their proximity.

The Mike Tyson analogy doesn't apply here.

To be fair, I feed live and F/T. I have had close calls with live, but nothing serious. I also empathize a bit with the prey, however, the act of constriction is a fairly quick way to dispatch a food item. There are some awful and slow examples, but in my experience the prey is dead in under 2 minutes and a lot of the twitches are nerves and the process of the body shutting down AFTER the animal has passed out.

I don't have a problem with either method and think folks should do what works best for their situation.

My point here is that prey is prey whether it is in the wild or in a cage. The minute captive feeders are born, they are destined to serve as food.

[Zincubus]

This is less about the "debate" than it is the quote. The quote seems to lead folks to believe a "confined" cage area is vastly different from the typical situation in the wild and is somehow unfair to the prey.

Outside of the obvious differences, the prey is doomed in the wild just as it is in the caged environment. If the snake is hungry and prey presents itself, it is a done deal.

Snakes don't set themselves up to fail. The term "Ambush predator" means just that. The prey has almost zero chance of escape once the snake has launched the attack. How often have you seen captive, live prey break away from the coils and make a run for it? It doesn't happen in a cage, and it doesn't happen in the wild.

The royal python actually thrives in "confined spaces". The rodent burrows they inhabit used to have occupants prior to their arrival. What do you think may have happened there?

With few exceptions, snakes ambush in rather confined areas and will sit and wait motionless for weeks sometimes months until they succeed.

Their periods of famine are not due to failure of the hunt, but rather lack of prey in their proximity.

The Mike Tyson analogy doesn't apply here.

To be fair, I feed live and F/T. I have had close calls with live, but nothing serious. I also empathize a bit with the prey, however, the act of constriction is a fairly quick way to dispatch a food item. There are some awful and slow examples, but in my experience the prey is dead in under 2 minutes and a lot of the twitches are nerves and the process of the body shutting down AFTER the animal has passed out.

I don't have a problem with either method and think folks should do what works best for their situation.

My point here is that prey is prey whether it is in the wild or in a cage. The minute captive feeders are born, they are destined to serve as food.

Nice , balanced viewpoint .

[Gio]

Nice , balanced viewpoint .

You seem like a nice person.

Stay on the course with what works best for you and your pets.

Have a safe weekend!