It's hard to not get discouraged though. When you go on kingsnake and see the same ads for the same snakes relisted over and over and over again. I know the king snake is only one website, but I also see it on breeder web sites as well. Things have at least slowed down out have to see. I think the days of selling snakes for 5 figures is long gone. Sure there are some still willing to pay that, but I don't think very many breeders are going to be coughing up that money knowing that things are kind of slowing down.