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    Re: Not Sure What is Going On. PLEASE HELP

    If that is the case with the eggs not being fertile why would I see strong veins all throughout the eggs when candled. Can an unfertile egg still show strong veins?
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    2.2 Het Albino (Morph), (Destruction of the Endless) . (Despair of the Endless), (Marvel Girl)
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    0.1 Butter (Desire of the Endless)
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    1.0 Super Pastel Fire (Wolverine)
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    I'm must not have caught that. The ones that wen bad had strong veins?

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    I have lost 4 out of 12. 1 I did not see veins on. The other 3 had veins but molded. I put a little athletes foot powder on mold and both of those eggs rotted.
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    1.2 100% Het. Pied (2015 Male) . (Death of the Endless), (2015 Female)
    1.0 Pastel PH Pied (Dream of the Endless)
    0.1 Spider (Delirium of the Endless)
    2.2 Het Albino (Morph), (Destruction of the Endless) . (Despair of the Endless), (Marvel Girl)
    1.0 Mojave (Destiny of the Endless)
    0.1 Butter (Desire of the Endless)
    2.1 Pastel (2016 Male 1), (2016 Male 2) . (Pheonix)
    0.1 Cinnamon (Dark Pheonix)
    1.1 Piebald (Ice-Man) . (Emma Frost)
    1.0 Super Pastel Fire (Wolverine)
    0.1 Super Pastel Yellow Belly (Psyclocke)
    1.0 Albino Pastel (Colossus)
    1.0 Inferno (Cyclops)
    1.0 Banana Spider (Angel)
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    I hope you don't take this personally, but this is a classic case of putting the cart before the horse. How in the world you got to having eggs without the knowledge not to mist them is perplexing. If you put enough water in the vermiculite (or whatever your using) and seal the lid well enough you shouldn't need to be adding any water at all during the incubation. My guess is you have multiple problems going on with your incubation technique. Long story short you need to get on these forums and you tube and put in the hours researching. As for the eggs you have going right now, my recommendation is to cut them. Even if you cut eggs a week early they will be fine. just cut a hole or flap in the top and then put them right back in the incubator. My guess is your temps were low and obviously your humidity was fluctuating, which stunted the growth creating longer incubation time. I incubate at 89 degrees with 99% humidity in my tubs (dry eggs) and they hatch on day 55.
    0.1 Firefly Lesser
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    I have done quite a lot of reading on the site and have gotten info from some local breeders as well. One of the local breeders told me to mist over the eggs and medium. As stated this is my first clutch and of course I am still learning and just very nervous and anxious. I appriciate any constructive advice that will help me along the way. Now I know that the person I was going to before was not giving good advice.

    So as far as cutting the eggs how do I safely go about doing this as to not hurt the baby snakes inside? Any guidance on this would also be appreciated. Thank you
    1.0 Normal (Drake)
    1.2 100% Het. Pied (2015 Male) . (Death of the Endless), (2015 Female)
    1.0 Pastel PH Pied (Dream of the Endless)
    0.1 Spider (Delirium of the Endless)
    2.2 Het Albino (Morph), (Destruction of the Endless) . (Despair of the Endless), (Marvel Girl)
    1.0 Mojave (Destiny of the Endless)
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    2.1 Pastel (2016 Male 1), (2016 Male 2) . (Pheonix)
    0.1 Cinnamon (Dark Pheonix)
    1.1 Piebald (Ice-Man) . (Emma Frost)
    1.0 Super Pastel Fire (Wolverine)
    0.1 Super Pastel Yellow Belly (Psyclocke)
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    Candle the egg and find a spot that doesnt have as many veins. Try to avout cutting veins. Cut very shallow and just a small flap.

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    Re: Not Sure What is Going On. PLEASE HELP

    Quote Originally Posted by Drake Moonslayer View Post
    I have done quite a lot of reading on the site and have gotten info from some local breeders as well. One of the local breeders told me to mist over the eggs and medium. As stated this is my first clutch and of course I am still learning and just very nervous and anxious. I appriciate any constructive advice that will help me along the way. Now I know that the person I was going to before was not giving good advice.

    So as far as cutting the eggs how do I safely go about doing this as to not hurt the baby snakes inside? Any guidance on this would also be appreciated. Thank you
    YouTube has many videos of clutches being cut.

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    Re: Not Sure What is Going On. PLEASE HELP

    Honestly I wouldnt cut the eggs. New breeder already having issues plus a lot of mold already being around the eggs from the ones you lost sounds like a bad combination to me. You dont need to cut the eggs, Id suggest just leaving them alone.

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    They are on day 63, "dimpled like crazy" and have had issues. I still say cut them. also some pictures would really help BTW aalomon, I just checked out your Facebook and LOVE your collection!!
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    0.1 Firefly Lesser
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    0.1 Vanilla Cream
    0.1 Flame Pinstripe
    0.1 Black Pewter Ghost
    0.1 Pastel Calico Leopard het Pied
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    Thank all of you for the advice and assistance with this. BrianDallek I did take the advice from you and PitontheProwl in cutting the eggs.

    First I turned up the temp a little currently sitting at 88.
    Second I did very carefully cut the eggs making sure to avoid veins I believe I may have hit one vein on one of the eggs.

    I checked the clutch just a few minuets ago to find one pipping

    Pictures will follow shortly. Thanks again to all of you. I am very nervous as I stated in the beginning these are my first and second clutchs.
    1.0 Normal (Drake)
    1.2 100% Het. Pied (2015 Male) . (Death of the Endless), (2015 Female)
    1.0 Pastel PH Pied (Dream of the Endless)
    0.1 Spider (Delirium of the Endless)
    2.2 Het Albino (Morph), (Destruction of the Endless) . (Despair of the Endless), (Marvel Girl)
    1.0 Mojave (Destiny of the Endless)
    0.1 Butter (Desire of the Endless)
    2.1 Pastel (2016 Male 1), (2016 Male 2) . (Pheonix)
    0.1 Cinnamon (Dark Pheonix)
    1.1 Piebald (Ice-Man) . (Emma Frost)
    1.0 Super Pastel Fire (Wolverine)
    0.1 Super Pastel Yellow Belly (Psyclocke)
    1.0 Albino Pastel (Colossus)
    1.0 Inferno (Cyclops)
    1.0 Banana Spider (Angel)
    1.0 Coral Glow (Sabretooth)
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